People who are staying on Plex, have you tried Jellyfin? What about it do you not prefer? (real question)
from kiol@discuss.online to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 22 May 08:51
https://discuss.online/post/40119886

Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.

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zuch0698o@lemmy.world on 22 May 08:53 next collapse

Ease of use for my users across multiple platforms with minimal tech knowledge on their end. I’m sharing my library with ranges from 12yo to 70. I need it to “just work” and it does that perfectly.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 08:55 next collapse

Did you try Jellyfin? I’ve had success with Jellyfin once I’ve been the one setting up the TV app, etc. It did just work, because users found it very simple in comparison to Plex. If anything, they like how Plex shows more things beyond the collection.

Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 08:58 next collapse

I’ve been the one setting up the TV app, etc.

That is exactly the issue. I can’t personally set up the app for all my users. Most of them are not in my household.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:05 collapse

Me either, but I don’t expect them to setup any sort of app themself (including Plex).

Khanzarate@lemmy.world on 22 May 09:17 collapse

That’s his point though, he does expect them to be able to set up themselves, and apparently Plex is good for that.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:18 collapse

Yes, in my case I personally had to setup both clients (Plex and Jellyfin) for the family members myself.

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe on 22 May 09:48 collapse

And right back to lemmy.cafe/comment/17371392

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:00 collapse

Ah, the answer to that… I configured the server beforehand and installed it at their house as a gift, so I have persistent SSH access over VPN and can administer it remotely at will within tmux. Has worked for several years.

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 22 May 13:51 collapse

Surely you must be trolling at this point

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:13 next collapse

Had to find it, but there is a new tvOS app that looks very nice: Moonfin

gdbjr@lemmy.world on 22 May 10:52 collapse

Thanks do letting me know about this. I tried it and it does look good. Sadly for me at least it does perform well. Moves slow between options and libraries. And the Live TV Guide isn’t working at all. That could be a me issue, but the slowness is unacceptable. Once I have more time I will play it more and probably reach out to the Dev.

keyez@lemmy.world on 22 May 10:40 collapse

I use both at home, mostly plex though and I have about a dozen people who watch remotely and keeping the remote access private and secure I’m not putting jellyfin behind a public reverse proxy. Not feasible to setup wire guard for a dozen people across 4 states and troubleshooting those tunnels when Plex does all that for me. Plus Plex allows them to manage and reset their password without my intervention

marighost@piefed.social on 22 May 09:28 next collapse

Same here. Plex just works for my folks with 0 tech literacy. I may try Jellyfin in the future, but I have a few friends that primarily access Plex via Playstation 4/5, and I know there’s no support there yet.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:32 collapse

Yeah, lacking the client is not good. features.jellyfin.org/…/playstation-5-support

iamthetot@piefed.ca on 22 May 10:11 next collapse

I’ve never understood this stance. You do you, but if I’m offering to host stuff for friends or family for free, they can at least learn to operate that thing on their end.

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 22 May 10:15 next collapse

What do they need to even learn? How to login using the username you gave them?

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 22 May 13:52 collapse

Surely you haven’t exposed your Jellyfin to the open net, since even the devs admit that that is a terrible idea

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 22 May 13:58 next collapse

My Jellyfin is exposed to the open net and it’s completely fine, but users don’t need to know any technical details about that. They just need to know how to login.

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 22 May 14:08 collapse

Theres a reason everyone uses a VPN to allow remote streaming for their Jellyfin. The things as open as a barns door, so you should not just open it to the public. Like I said, even the devs say not to do that, its just not secure enough

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 22 May 14:19 collapse

You’re just spreading fud. Jellyfin devs actually have documentation on how to expose it to the net. Why would they do that if it were unsafe?jellyfin.org/docs/general/…/networking/

I’ve been using it this way for a couple years now and we are good. Never used Plex. I’m using only Jellyfin. So, I’ll pass on your advice. Thanks.

klankin@piefed.ca on 22 May 14:31 collapse

Got a link for the dev recommendation? I hadn’t heard about that

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:35 collapse

It seems to depend on how you are granting access and have configured the server… if they have to setup VPN access in order to access Jellyfin, as opposed to logging into plex website.

iamthetot@piefed.ca on 22 May 11:03 collapse

No, that doesn’t change anything about what I said really.

To me, if I’m hosting something for my friends and family, they can put in the effort to learn how to use it. Period. Whether that’s as simple as logging in through a browser, installing an app, or using a VPN. They can learn, or they can pay for Netflix (as an example, since we’re discussing a media server originally).

akilou@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 15:22 collapse

Couldn’t upvote this harder. Tried Jellyfin for 5 mins and was super confused why I couldn’t find sharing options. After googling and reading about reverse proxies and buying domains and shit I said fuck it and uninstalled

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 08:54 next collapse

I definitely have noticed that it is important to install metadata plugins like imdb, as well as fanart, in order to feel closer to Plex. Users like seeing Rotten Tomato and IMBD scores, in addition to cast info and such.

kibblebits@quokk.au on 22 May 08:56 next collapse

Can it import my Plex settings, categorized titles, and watched lists for all my users? And whatever other things I’m not thinking of…

It’s on my radar, but I have a lot of data, custom images, etc. it would need to be 1:1

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:04 next collapse

Watchstate can for sure by synced with JellyPlex-Watched. PlexyFin will sync over artwork & collections as well.

kibblebits@quokk.au on 22 May 09:08 collapse

Good to know. Thanks. I’m definitely looking for alternatives these days. Even though I’m self hosting Plex, I don’t trust it can work without their cloud and they will probably cut it off or limit it at some point.

Steve@communick.news on 22 May 09:20 collapse

It’s possible, but a project.
This is a good set of instructions on how to do it.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:34 collapse

Nice guide!

gdbjr@lemmy.world on 22 May 08:56 next collapse

The client apps on Apple TV are just not good. I have tried swiftfin which is slow and I find it not very visually appealing. There there is infuse which does look better, but is missing features and requires a subscription for full functionality. If there is a app I’m missing I would be happy to try it.

I keep Jellyfin up to date and check in or it from time to time. Even have watchstate so my watched history stays updated. Hoping one day there will be a good Apple TV app and I could fully switch.

relaymoth@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 09:03 next collapse

I’m in the same boat. Considering swapping out for a Linux based media box instead of the AppleTV.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:06 collapse

Kodi works well as a frontend to Jellyfin and Plex

lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:47 collapse

I hate this answer so much. I get that it works, but it feels like a kludge

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:04 next collapse

Absolutely, my other friends are doing the same. They keep their state synced between services and keep checking in on the AppleTV client improvements for Swiftfin.

Reannlegge@lemmy.ca on 22 May 09:30 next collapse

I use Jellyfin on my phone and just do the screen share to my AppleTV.

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 22 May 10:16 next collapse

Infuse is fine. Subscription has a lifetime option, or it’s $1/month.

violentfart@lemmy.world on 22 May 10:59 collapse

Same boat on Swiftfin and Infuse.

There’s one I recently found called Moonfin that does many things well. It’s my current go-to until official apps catch up.

thehatfox@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:31 collapse

I hadn’t heard of Moonfin before, it looks promising as an Apple TV client. Any pitfalls with it?

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 22 May 09:06 next collapse

I have both. Plex for family and Jellyfin for me. I still don’t have hardware transcoding working (probably a permission thing. It’s always permissions) and haven’t had much time to tinker this year. Plex just… worked.

I can use Jellyfin without transcoding, but only one or two users at a time is all my CPU can handle.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:07 next collapse

Same, directplay at 1080

stephen01king@lemmy.zip on 22 May 13:03 collapse

Are you running it on baremetal or in a VM?

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 22 May 13:12 collapse

Both are docker containers. It can detect the card, but ffmpeg crashes with an error and that’s as far as I got.

I haven’t given up, life just got busy for a bit as often happens.

stephen01king@lemmy.zip on 22 May 13:35 collapse

Okay, I haven’t tried using docker, so I can’t help directly, but I set up my Plex server with help from Jellyfin documentation. You could probably find something in there about setting up hardware acceleration on docker, if you haven’t already. They should work with Plex, as well.

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 22 May 14:22 collapse

Oh, HW works on Plex just fine.

kylie_kraft@lemmy.world on 22 May 09:10 next collapse

Admittedly this was 4 years ago, but the lack of documentation was frustrating. I don’t know if remote streaming or transcoding was even a thing back then, but I could find little to nothing about much of anything. Now I just don’t have the time. I switched to Stremio + plugins for TV and movies, and I’m content to keep using Plexamp for my vinyl rips until it stops working.

bigbangdangler@reddthat.com on 22 May 09:28 collapse

Jellyfin has definitely gotten leaps and bounds better in the last 4 years.

blitzen@lemmy.ca on 22 May 09:11 next collapse

Agree with most of the other comments here, but number one for me is PlexAmp.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:20 next collapse

Dedicated music on Jellyfin is something I’ve never been able to wrap my head around. Would be curious if others have figured something out that works really well within the same ecosystem.

sulfidedisburseangledafternoontipper@piefed.blahaj.zone on 22 May 14:24 collapse

Navidrome. It’s lightweight and works with any subsonic app.

brap@lemmy.world on 22 May 11:15 next collapse

100%, Plexamp is amazing when you really get into it.

hamFoilHat@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:56 collapse

Finamp exists, and it’s just as good.

blitzen@lemmy.ca on 22 May 15:41 collapse

I’ve used FinAmp. It’s not “just as good.”

krimson@lemmy.world on 22 May 09:12 next collapse

I use both still, Jellyfins UI can be a bit janky sometimes and it does not sync viewing progress of the same episode or movie across UHD and HD content, which Plex does.

Overall I think Jellyfin is better though.

dmtalon@infosec.pub on 22 May 09:17 next collapse

Lifetime subscriber when it was like $75 bux

Setup and runs on my NAS (unRAID) Uses a small GPU to transcode as needed Shared only with non technical family members

Has worked as is for YEARS.

So, the question is, am I looking for something to replace a working free (prepaid) solution I have? That answer is nope.

violentfart@lemmy.world on 22 May 10:52 next collapse

Having non-technical family on board is priceless tbh.

Dozzi92@lemmy.world on 22 May 12:58 collapse

Yeah, my mom uses it. My mom. I have to remove search bars from her chrome like it’s 2005.

valar@lemmy.ca on 22 May 11:12 collapse

This is my POV. It already works perfectly, is prepaid, and is accessible to my nontechnical users. Switching would be a major pain for a worse experience.

Also, Plexamp.

Someday in the future no doubt Plex will enshittify for lifetime users such that it will justify a change, but that hasn’t happened.

MarauderIIC@lemmy.zip on 22 May 13:51 collapse

+1 to all of this. I paid for it when it was $90 lifetime, before either Jellyfin was popular before I heard of it, who knows. It works fine. No reason to put extra effort into replacing something that I have no problems or qualms with.

Bryan065@kbin.earth on 22 May 09:18 next collapse

There's still a bunch of outstanding API security issues last I checked, so it's not secure enough for me to open to the web.

Teaching friends and family to use it with a VPN is a whole another can. Also, you'll have to make sure the VPN is secure and users don't have access to the rest of your network...

and then you'll have to deal with client apps/access for mobile, android boxes, TVs, and Chromecasts...

I got lucky with the Plex Pass too so I can only ride this out to the end until Jellyfin catches up. (also, I'm not good to contribute code)

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:25 collapse

Any particular API security issues? Never considered exposing Jellyfin, but can certainly understand how it simplifies access.

Bryan065@kbin.earth on 22 May 09:55 collapse

This was the security report from awhile back:

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

Lot's of things have been fixed but theres still much to do. The issue was broken down to smaller issues for tracking and I check back every once in a while.

Even if there were no security issues, exposing jellyfin is also another can... choice of:

  1. open up ports
  2. cloudflare (and potential ban for video content on the free tier, even if caching is disabled)
  3. vps with enough bandwidth
b34k@lemmy.world on 22 May 10:11 collapse

Don’t you have to open a port for Plex remote access?

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:24 next collapse

I think the difference is Plex offers a web address you can use for logging into Plex and for sharing it with others. So, you get a friendly admin interface with oauth for logging in from other popular services as the Plex user getting setup.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 22 May 13:14 collapse

You do not but you’ll be severely bandwidth limited. It’ll go through their servers if a port can’t be opened.

b34k@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:03 next collapse

Oh I forgot about that option

dogs0n@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 15:06 collapse

That sounds like you do have to open one then? Otherwise you are “severely bandwidth limited” and who wants that?

ushmel@piefed.world on 22 May 09:19 next collapse

I have both. Plex is better with music at this time, which is a huge use for me. Jellyfin has a quicker UI and i swear looks better streaming to my TV, but could just be bias.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:40 next collapse

Have you tried PlexAmp? And, are you doing music entirely through the base Jellyfin app? Interesting to know you prefer the music experience on Jellyfin.

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 22 May 10:13 next collapse

Plex was good for music for me until it started acting weirdly a few months ago. It started scanning my library nonstop and running my hard drives on full speed for days before I eventually caught it.

I was told it was the agent from Plex but changing that out didn’t fix the issue so I moved my stuff off there and have been working with Navidrome instead.

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 22 May 11:56 collapse

Jellyfin needs to fix their bugs around having the same artist listed multiple times in your library.

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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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B0NK3RS@lazysoci.al on 22 May 09:26 next collapse

I tried Jellyfin probably 2 years ago and it was fine but Plex is just “plug n play” in regard to my family setting it up themselves with little help from me.

Plexamp is the only way I stream music too so that’s a big reason why I won’t move yet.

const_void@lemmy.ml on 22 May 12:36 collapse

Navidrome plus Arpeggi, Narjo or Symphonium are pretty much equivalent

Sickday@kbin.earth on 22 May 09:32 next collapse

No free Apple TV app is kind of a deal-breaker. Even Emby has one. Also the Roku app still crashes fairly regularly for me just randomly either browsing or during playback.

I'd love to use it fulltime but I don't want to have to buy new devices just to use it. Plex already works and I picked up a lifetime pass when it wasn't insanely priced.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:36 collapse

So, two free options for tvOS / Apple TV.

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe on 22 May 09:45 next collapse

I’ve had little luck with Swiftfin. Last time I tried it, it wouldn’t connect to my server by IP: port.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:22 collapse

That happened to me related to needing http:// https:// before the ip, then it worked. Also added avahi mdns, to use hostname.local instead of ip

MacStache@sopuli.xyz on 22 May 14:04 collapse

First time I’ve heard of Moonfin, but it looks really promising. iOS version works great, need to check tvOS version later this weekend! Thanks!

Unleaded8163@fedia.io on 22 May 09:41 next collapse

I have both. My main gripe with Jellyfin is the the Google TV app. It doesn't seem to have an easily accessible skip 30 or jump to next chapter option. If that was improved, I might be ready to ditch Plex.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:50 collapse

I’m aware of the intro skipper plugin. Also set my default skip under Profile / Skip forward length / 30 seconds

Also, it seems Chapter Segments Provider was recently introduced as a plugin, which you’ll need to install to "Create media segments based on chapters."

CallMeAl@piefed.world on 22 May 09:46 next collapse

WhatI’ve noticed is that people who prioritize privacy and just want to watch their downloads on their tv usually use jellyfin and people who prioritize ux slickness and want to run an IPTV service for their friends and family usually use plex.

Prove_your_argument@piefed.social on 22 May 09:45 next collapse

if you install it and do not add plugins or mods or download them manually or with another tool, there is no way to pull subtitles.

You also need to sideload the app because it’s not available in app stores.

That’s the blockers for me… though the plugin for subtitles that now exists I have yet to try, and it may make it doable.

bobslaede@feddit.dk on 22 May 09:55 next collapse

Which app stores (plural?) does not have jellyfin apps?

Prove_your_argument@piefed.social on 22 May 10:16 collapse

PS5, Fire TV Cube, Samsung TVs are what i’d use it on. Those app stores.

I know android/ios has it nowadays, but manufacturers generally don’t want to offer apps that do not drive referrals or some kind of revenue sharing with competing services.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:29 collapse

These should help.

Prove_your_argument@piefed.social on 22 May 10:49 collapse

I can find github links to 3rd party clients dude to sideload. I know all about it.

What I don’t want to do is support my extended friends and family who can figure out how to log into a plex tv app. I do enough tech support for money to not want to do it for free.

The amazon appstore one has limited support and it really depends on the device… and often many aspects do not work as expected, like you can’t just play dolby vision files without forcing it to transcode on some hardware. I understand some of this is hardware limitations of various fire tv hardware, but again, don’t want to figure that shit out.

Plus I would need to walk people through entering the network information, there’s no web portal that will let people in just by logging into a single plain as day website last I checked. Sure, I could pay for a no-ip sub or something or actually start paying for a domain but all of this stuff is even more work, when my existing setup just works and has none of these problems and has yet to intrude on usability for what I already have. When it gets worse i’ll obviously switch.

frongt@lemmy.zip on 22 May 10:21 next collapse

Jellyfin has a builtin subtitle search and download tool I’m pretty sure. I know I’ve done it right from jellyfin, and I don’t think I’ve installed any plugin for that…

Prove_your_argument@piefed.social on 22 May 10:26 collapse

oh, you didn’t have to create an opensubtitles account and set it up on your server with the plugin? Someone told me about this like a day ago. Kinda weird this would even exist if there is robust subtitle support natively now. https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/plugins/open-subtitles/

A year ago I was unable to source subtitles unless I provided them.

My wife is an immigrant and some of her family doesn’t speak any English really, so subtitle support is of utmost importance for our household. Not just English subtitles either.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 10:26 next collapse

Sideload in which appstore? Jellyfin requires adding functionality through plugins, instead of pre-bundling. Definitely something where more documentation and guidance would go a long way in helping us feel more confident in both using, and switching, to it.

CuddlesMcBubblefun@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:45 collapse

I have Bazarr as part of my ARR stack that pulls in subtitles for me so they show up no matter what I’m using to access the library, works like a champ!

ace@lemmy.ananace.dev on 22 May 09:49 next collapse

The lack of library sharing is what’s keeping me on Plex.

The ability to watch media across servers, and even transparently pull it for local transcode when necessary is just an amazing feature.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 09:57 collapse

This multi-server front project, Jellyswarrm is really interesting, which allows the Jellyfin clients to access more than one Jellyfin server simultaneously. I think it may do what you want when combined with server sync.

Would definitely test extensively before putting in production, hehe.

ace@lemmy.ananace.dev on 22 May 10:53 collapse

It doesn’t really solve my use-case, since we do a combination of direct stream when possible, as well as local sync/cache but only for transcoding purposes. As well as local users only, with the federated sharing taking care of permissions, so that we don’t transfer user information between eachother.

Jellyswarrm is certainly a lot closer than other solutions people have suggested though.

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 22 May 10:10 next collapse

I have tried it but having Plex handle the out-of-home routing for me securely is a great feature Jellyfin doesn’t have but doesn’t for obvious reasons and I justify that as why I pay Plex. I have thoughts and better knowledge now about how to properly implement it, but I’m not sure I want to rebuild my current setup that just works with very minimal upkeep.

That and I am on someone else’s Plex server who updates it much more than I do. Mine just supplements theirs with stuff they don’t have and one-offs I’ve wanted and found. I’d still be using Plex even if I did rebuild with Jellyfin today.

But if these price increases keep coming, I may make the switch. It’s tempting to shell out the money for the lifetime membership, but I don’t have faith in companies, including Plex, to keep up their end of the deal on these things.

ryan_@piefed.social on 22 May 10:12 next collapse

I’m not switching at this time because I already bought a lifetime pass about 7 years ago. If ANY of my functionality gets changed by Plex then I’ll be switching

frongt@lemmy.zip on 22 May 10:19 collapse

They already changed the authentication system a few years ago. Everything goes through their server now. You can’t self-host it.

Dozzi92@lemmy.world on 22 May 12:59 next collapse

I don’t know what this means and maybe I’m just not techy enough, but all my shit is on my PC, and if my PC is turned off it doesn’t work. Are you saying it goes through their servers? I’m just curious why it matters.

stephen01king@lemmy.zip on 22 May 12:59 next collapse

Can you explain what you mean by not being able to self-host?

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 22 May 13:56 collapse

Running Plex locally is still perfectly viable without going through their servers

Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca on 22 May 10:24 next collapse

I use Emby instead of Plex or Jellyfin; mostly because it has an Xbox client, and I’ve already got a lifetime licence. One of my most active users only watches via Xbox.

Really don’t like Plexs centralised user system or the overall direction they’ve been headed for years, so I moved away from that long ago (8+ years ago at least). Jellyfin wasn’t up to par at the time (though they’ve made leaps and bounds of progress in that time), and Emby has always supported more types of devices\clients. Their device limit (the client count limit with premeir) has never come into play for me, but I know there are larger user bases out there where that is a problem.

Embys development is extremely slow though, taking YEARS to implement simple features or even address major concerns. Plus their support sucks without the community stepping in and providing it on behalf of the staff. Luke (the main dev) is better at copy+pasting candid responses than he is at actually interacting with human beings.

Pika@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 10:25 next collapse

I’m not using Plex, but I feel like I can answer my complaints about using jellyfin.

My biggest complaint is the lack of clients. It is such a pain in the butt to install jellyFin on all of my products.

My second complaint is the security design. They’ve had open issues about unauthenticated endpoints for three or four years now. And whenever the issue gets so old that it starts to look bad, they refactor the issue into a newer issue abd bury it in the sand.

For a while this was done under the guise of maintaining legacy client support, but just recently it looks like they’re starting to focus on more security, and I’ve noticed some of those security holes are being closed finally, but it’s a major concern for me that they’ve been open for as long as they have.

ShortN0te@lemmy.ml on 22 May 12:54 collapse

My second complaint is the security design. They’ve had open issues about unauthenticated endpoints for three or four years now. And whenever the issue gets so old that it starts to look bad, they refactor the issue into a newer issue abd bury it in the sand.

You mean that one issue that is still open and linked in the “security and quality” tab on github?

the_artic_one@piefed.social on 22 May 11:02 next collapse

I got started with jellyfin and never used Plex but there’s a bunch of rough edges:

  • No apps on several smart tv/streaming stick stores, Vizio has an app for plex but not jellyfin so I would need to buy a new streaming device. Yes smart tvs spy on you but the alternatives people recommend either spy on you just as much or are expensive (Nvidia shield) and most of them still require side loading so it’s a major obstacle for sharing with anyone else.
  • Casting from the mobile app won’t play at full resolution, you can get around this by using VLC as your player and casting from that but that causes it to frequently lose watch progress. Also stopping casting or playing the next episode doesn’t work properly with VLC and you need to rapidly mash “back” to get into the jellyfin app again and queue up a new episode.
  • The current release of Jellyfin desktop won’t play audio for iptv streams, this is fixed in the dev branch but I have yet to find a build without other critical bugs so I’ll likely need to wait for the next release which currently has no target date.
  • The browser version has spotty controller support that stops working constantly. When it does work it lacks any way to access context menus to mark shows as watched etc. If you’re using a flatpak browser to run it on steam deck or whatever, you’ll have codec and passthrough issues (Chrome is the only flatpak with decent codec support).
  • Others have mentioned the security issues which you can bypass by putting authentik or something in front of it but then you can only share with people using browser.
kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 11:18 collapse

What about exposing through Pangolin tunnel, Cloudflare Tunnel, Tailscale Funnel approach? Would that allow proper client access?

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org on 22 May 12:44 next collapse

Same problem regarding security because if you leave it up to jellyfin to do auth you are betting on the wrong horse. With pangolin auth in front of it you have the same problem as before. Clients can’t handle the additional auth.

Or am I misunderstanding the concept of tunnels wrong? I am using pangolin as a reverse proxy with nice VPN management included. How do you the tail scale style “connect this client to this network that has the jellyfin server on it” thingy?

Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf on 22 May 12:51 collapse

Cloudflare doesn’t allow streaming large quantities of data through their tunnels. At least it’s against their ToS.

idunnololz@lemmy.world on 22 May 11:10 next collapse

I don’t have time.

Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf on 22 May 12:52 collapse

Jellyfin was one of the easiest things to set up though.

Dozzi92@lemmy.world on 22 May 12:53 next collapse

I see plenty of comments suggesting it’s not the set it and forget it that Plex is.

Nibodhika@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:03 collapse

I have set up both. Honestly Jellyfin was MUCH more easy to setup because Plex requires a very specific way to setup the network otherwise it craps its pants and refuses to work on LAN.

But after figuring out those pain points, both are set and forget. The main differences are privacy concerns vs wide access outside of LAN and on more devices.

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 22 May 14:02 collapse

The fact that Plex does not even have settings for hardware encoding, besides on/off, tells me that’s bullshit

idunnololz@lemmy.world on 22 May 12:57 collapse

Maybe but the process is really annoying. I have to backup my 4tb library, make the switch, if it doesnt work I have to revert.

I don’t have a spare 6tb drive either so i would need to buy one.

Besides, i already have a plex lifetime membership so most of the new changes do not affect me.

I could just risk it and do the upgrade raw, but I would be pretty upset if I lost my data due to the switch.

lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:49 collapse

What? Just point Plex or Jellyfin at the same media library

fartographer@lemmy.world on 22 May 11:30 next collapse

I absolutely love jellyfin and frequently take advantage of its features. But the client absolutely suck butt. When I can hardly get my mom to remember which app on her TV lets her watch what, I can’t also have her fucking around with play buttons that don’t do what they say, a “continue watching” list that’s often haunted by episodes that have been marked as watched, or inscrutable menu icons mashed into the top-right corner of a media browser.

And don’t get me started on getting people logged in on the client.

Steve@startrek.website on 22 May 11:39 next collapse

I only use my library with jellyfin and only locally. I left plex a few years ago. What I really want to set up next is a UI that uses a simple remote control and ditch the Roku interface so I can be seamlessly offline.

kiol@discuss.online on 22 May 12:35 collapse

Like kodi.tv ?

const_void@lemmy.ml on 22 May 12:34 next collapse

The Apple TV client is basically unusable. Otherwise I would have switched already.

Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca on 22 May 13:04 collapse

I’d be getting rid of apple whatever at that point

const_void@lemmy.ml on 22 May 15:08 collapse

Why?

Shikakka@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:11 next collapse

Life time subscriber since a very long time. So no need, but I would have switched if there was a decent Xbox or LG TV app.

Plex works for me, Jellyfin doesn’t because of missing apps 🤷‍♂️

r0ertel@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:18 next collapse

I started with Plex because it was an installable app on my NAS. It worked great with a Roku stick that was given to me. Same for a TV that had the Plex client. It works well for the others in the house. I got a Plex pass on sale a few years ago.

I’d like to switch to Jellyfin, but would need to find the client for 2 TVs and deal with the complaints if it doesn’t work exactly like Plex.

motruck@lemmy.zip on 22 May 13:28 next collapse

Te kodi integration has nothing on plex4kodi. If they worked the same I’d switch in a heart beat. Jellyfin and Plex both have terrible interfaces and can’t play media nearly as well as Kodi hence the requirement.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:40 next collapse

I run both, I got the lifetime license for under $100 and it is much easier to have my various family members install the Plex app and then login than to get them on my VPN to access Jellyfin.

Grandma ain’t installing Tailscale

SethranKada@lemmy.ca on 22 May 13:42 next collapse

I got a lifetime pass for cheap ages ago and while the company isn’t doing so well, Plex itself isn’t getting any worse. Its just not getting better.

As long as that continues, then I’m fine with staying. I only really use it for Plexamp anyway.

Bryan065@kbin.earth on 22 May 14:12 collapse

oh I forgot about Plexamp. Its been my main music app since it also does Android auto.

It just works so well and nothing else comes close so far.

irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone on 22 May 13:44 next collapse

I have a lifetime pass from many years ago when it was cheap. So I’m not in a huge rush to convert and want to do it right. But I am on the path to converting. I decided to make a major change to my home server infrastructure and it’s still in an experimental stage. Moving from a really old standalone computer I’ve used for. HTPC purposes over the years, currently dedicated to Plex combined with a few raspberry pi’s of various generations for the little stuff, and a single, good NUC for my router, to adding two additional NUCs and eventually upgrading the Plex computer with a more modern processor and video card for ML stuff for Immich and a few other systems that I plan to start using. I’m not just moving from Plex, but also a lot of Google and Nest products.

My dilemma has been Docker Swarm vs Kubernetes. I was trying to set up Kubernetes in a way that is easily repeatable and self documenting, but ended up with lots of manual steps required to install things and lots of things that I had to write my own helm charts for as well as the scripts to install and set up Kubernetes itself on each of the servers. Lots of custom stuff. Docker Swarm would be way easier, but the issue is I’m worried about Docker getting so proprietary these days and swarm mode getting so little attention, and Podman quadlets aren’t self balancing across multiple small servers like swarm. So that’s why I haven’t switched to Jellyfin yet.

DecentM@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 May 14:10 collapse

I wanted the same thing with Kubernetes and ended up using FluxCD. Highly recommend it. It basically syncs a git repo to the cluster, so you just push to github or whatever, and it auto applies the changes you pushed. Also, llm models tend to be good at teaching this topic and even writing yaml files for it, so the initial learning curve was not bad actually.

Now I’m exploring doing this even better with this template: github.com/onedr0p/cluster-template

makeshift0546@lemmy.today on 22 May 13:45 next collapse

The UI didn’t support remotes on console and use tiles. Really amateur shit. No need to set up a reverse proxy. I have a lifetime, zero need to switch.

lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:46 next collapse

Jellyfin crashes when living next to Plex in Docker, something about grabbing the same transcoder or something - I forget I’m pretty removed now.

But if I can’t run in parallel, I can’t eventually make the switch, since I can’t get started. And it’s not a great time to pick up a second box just for testing.

Seefoo@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:50 next collapse

Plex clients arent great, but they are better on many TVs compared to jellyfin. Also the wife is used to it, so I don’t really want to retrain

flynnguy@programming.dev on 22 May 13:53 next collapse

Last time I tried it, it wanted my media in a specific file structure, so I ended up having multiple instances of the same show. I could reorder everything but I got a plexpass when it was dirt cheap so I’m not that inclined to reorder everything.

If I was just starting out, I’d probably use Jellyfin but haven’t mostly due to inertia.

HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social on 22 May 14:10 next collapse

I’m in the throes of attempting a migration from Plex (lifetime pass, here) to Jellyfin, and my main issue is echoed elsewhere: It’s a headache to set up secure external access. My users would either need a new account through some auth gate I’d have to set up & manage, or I’d have to wire everyone up through wireguard or something they’d have to remember a password for and blah blah blah.

Plex is the only thing my home server is sharing. I don’t have anything directly exposed to the external internet. In any case I can think of, doing this “right” means extra steps (on top of new steps) for my current users, plus new security concerns & added user management for myself.

SirSamuel@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:14 collapse

I got a Synology NAS and despite being a technical idiot I was able to set up my family with Jellyfin on Roku phoning home to my NAS.

FryHyde@lemmy.zip on 22 May 14:34 collapse

Wouldn’t this result in all your traffic being unencrypted?

SirSamuel@lemmy.world on 22 May 15:41 collapse

Probably, I dunno. Technical idiot, remember? From a real life perspective, what are the consequences of unencrypted video files being shared to a Roku?

50MYT@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:27 next collapse

Ive been using Plex for a few years. No pass. Desktop all the media is on, tv with a Chromecast. Android and iOS phones, both with Plex apps where I cast to the tv from.

The old app worked fine.

The new Plex app has issues with this. Some titles just won’t cast, you press play and it goes back to menu. I have to go to the desktop and cast from the Plex server page to the same tv and it works.

It’s frustrating.

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 May 14:33 next collapse

I have a lifetime pass and multiple TVs used by multiple people obver 10k km away from me that are not tech literate.

BlackVenom@lemmy.world on 22 May 14:41 next collapse

I got a lifetime pass a long time ago and have no reason to switch. I’ll consider it when it’s worth considering.

hamFoilHat@lemmy.world on 22 May 15:00 next collapse

I’ve actually switched, so I’m not really who you are asking, but the last hurdle was I really don’t like how it filters the movie list when you pick a letter instead of jumping to that place in the list. Anyone know how to make it work like Plex?

AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl on 22 May 15:00 next collapse

I can’t make my family members use Wireguard, they are stubborn, what can I say?

Secondly it’s the guides I saw for some specifics things I wanted, almost everything was with Plex in mind.

Thirdly I just liked how quick it was to set up and intuitive to use compared to Jellyfin.

Fourthly the Users are really easy to manage and create from Plex without me having to manage everyone.

Finally many smart TVs come with a specific subset of apps and Plex usually makes the cut while Jellyfin does not, again, family members, I can’t control what TVs they buy.

JordanZ@lemmy.world on 22 May 15:25 collapse

If it was just for me inside my house then I never would have left XBMC now called Kodi and a file share. I still run it with a special set top box to play 4K disc rips with full Dolby Vision / Atmos support.

Plex is dirt simple to get a reasonably secure setup for remote streaming with virtually no effort. User management and password resets are mostly managed by Plex and not me. I just have to setup what libraries I want to share with them.

I have a lifetime pass that I got for like $70-80. As long as it’s not broken, I see no reason to switch. Sure they keep adding garbage that I have to turn off but for the most part I can turn it off.