how are my fellow peeps hosting your music collection these days?
from SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 20:40
https://lemmy.world/post/31645721

right now I’m trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

i need it to be remotely controllable, it’d be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

I’ve dabbled with the “____sonic” ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

#selfhosted

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solrize@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 20:48 next collapse

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I just have a bunch of media files (.ogg, .mp3, etc.) in directories and play them with mplayer from the command line. Playlist = shell script that plays some group of files. I use old school track numbering (01-whatever, 02-whatsit, etc.) though, so most of the time “mplayer *” is how I play an album and the tracks play automatically in the right order. I don’t understand the purpose of anything fancier. Now get off my lawn.

a@91268476.xyz on 18 Jun 20:58 next collapse

@solrize @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted this is a sad, boomer take, is not even funny.

solrize@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 21:07 collapse

I just don’t get it, I’ve seen people struggle with itunes, that stuff is way too complicated and I don’t see any need for it. Maybe I’m missing something but if I want to play some music and it’s in a file, saying “play this file” seems about as direct as it gets.

a@91268476.xyz on 18 Jun 21:12 collapse

@solrize @selfhosted assuming you have the file in the same machine you want to listen to it, and you are the only one who wants to access it, sure that is fine

solrize@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 21:22 collapse

Sometimes they are on a remote server that I sshfs mount and play the same way. Multiple people could use the server at the same time if desired, though for me it hasn’t been an issue. It’s audio, I don’t need a visual UI for it. I still have a fair amount of physical media too including LP’s, though my record player is long gone.

Anyway, be happy that I didn’t mention FORTH :).

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 18 Jun 21:46 collapse

I host my media on a bookshelf and play it through a stereo

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 19:21 collapse

I hear you Mr Audiophile. Thing is, all that space it takes to house a grand collection, when it all now fits on two 10TB drives filled with high res flac. I can’t tell a difference. Not saying there isn’t one, just saying I can’t hear it. So, for me, it works out perfect.

a@91268476.xyz on 18 Jun 20:59 next collapse

@SidewaysHighways @selfhosted I use navidrome which is incredibly solid and boring in a good way. Playsub or Amperfy as iOS client, web or supersonic for desktop.

If you want to stick to jellyfin, Manet is probably the best client for music

WuxinGoat@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 23:17 collapse

Another vote for Navidrome here, i use the Tempo android client for it and i use the feishin web front end for desktop because it’s better than the default navidrome web front end.

truxnell@aussie.zone on 18 Jun 21:03 next collapse

Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.

RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz on 18 Jun 21:53 next collapse

Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I’ve been looking for.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 21:56 next collapse

ewwww really? not even Aurora store?

saffroncity@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 22:12 next collapse

There is a way without Google Play outlined here: support.symfonium.app/t/…/2

WuxinGoat@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 23:16 next collapse

I’ve found Tempo to be one of the better alternatives you can find on f-droid

oldfart@lemm.ee on 19 Jun 00:06 collapse

I use it and like its UI but it doesn’t properly support offline, you can just download single tracks. By proper offline support I mean something like Audinaut, which unfortunately doesn’t work in new Android versions

SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 06:37 collapse

I worked around that by making a smart playlist in Navidrome with all my tracks sorted by date added. In Tempo you can then download the entire playlist.

N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 03:09 collapse

Just use AuroraStore to avoid google play account. You can even pay the Symfonium creator through a hacky workarround and get your full access without Google Play.

That’s an official way you can read it on Symfoniums forum somwhere !

[deleted] on 19 Jun 03:14 collapse

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carloshr@lile.cl on 18 Jun 21:09 next collapse

I'm a very satisfied #jellyfin user. I have my music and movie files shared there. I use different clients: a rpi 5 with kodi and jellydin plugin; an old RPI B with volumio; in android, finamp and also share with dlna.

@SidewaysHighways @selfhosted

wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jun 00:13 collapse

+1 for Volumio! I didn’t know it can use Jellyfin as a media source. To be fair, I just started using Jellyfin and didn’t want to migrate everything to it until being sure it will stay. So far it’s looking very good though.

carloshr@lile.cl on 19 Jun 00:27 collapse

Yes. There is a plugin to use jellyfin as a source in volumio. It's the best.

@wintermute @selfhosted

DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org on 18 Jun 21:09 next collapse

All my music is stored in a folder on my NAS, broken down by artist, release. It can be accessed via SMB, SFTP, Jellyfin and Plex. From there I stream to what ever device I’m using. Wireguard, Tailscale or Plex is required to stream outside my home. Navidrome sounds interesting.

jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works on 18 Jun 21:14 next collapse

I use Jellyfin with FinAmp for Android. Even supports offline caching.

Vase@feddit.org on 18 Jun 21:41 next collapse

Gathered all music/Audiobook Files on my Synology NAS, organized in folders. Beside, there is still a Lyrion Music Server (LMS) running on the NAS in a docker. Put the Squeezer Play Client on every possible device (Windows, Linux PC, Android, Tigerbox, Pi zeros) and streaming works well for me at Home.

Access either via Web or App on Android/iOS. I have enabled navigating in LMS via folders because ID3 Tags are poorly maintained in my files. :/

ari_verse@lemmy.ca on 18 Jun 21:45 next collapse

My use case: collection based on single-flac + cuesheets, thousands, many of which are HD. Setup: all the music is in an NFS share in my HTPC, which also runs Kodi (flatpak) for both video and audio media. That machine is connected to my main audio setup via USB DAC.

The Kodi music DB is hosted externally in mariaDB in the same server. I use 2 headless Kodi (OSMC) clients with HiFiBerry DACs as streamers around the house, using the same DB/media. Lastly I also have an Nvidia Shield running Kodi also exposing the same collection/DB.

Over the years I have tested many alternatives, including navidrome, volumio, and others, but they all struggle handling my music collection, choke processing cuesheets or don’t even support them, or can’t handle NFS reliably or at all, or can’t process 24 bit content etc.

I couldn’t find any solution nearly as reliable, performant or flexible as this one. I use this setup pretty much daily. With incremental improvements, it’s been running for more than 10 years.

Each Kodi client can be managed via its web interface (a little dated but fully functional and reliable), amd via Android app (I use Yatse).

The main server also exposes the music collection via DLNA.

I looked at jellyfin/Plex in the past as well but for muy use case, it’s over-complicated and didn’t add value.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 21:49 next collapse

i do love me some Kodi/libreELEC!

how hard is it to stand up a headless kodi? this would still work with jellyfin with addon, but it might be REALLY FUN to install a kodi addon with no screen

also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?

486@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 22:41 next collapse

also i am having trouble hunting down what cuesheets means in this context?

When you rip an audio CD you can either create one file for each track or you can rip the entire CD as one track and create a cue sheet file which is basically a text file describing where each track starts in that single audio file. This can be useful to have an exact copy of the CD without adding unintended gaps between tracks. It is primarily useful if you intend on recreating the actual audio CD at a later time from the ripped data. Most people don’t need this.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 23:17 next collapse

ooolala TIL! thanks!

passenger@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jun 05:33 collapse

Cool nick! But it could be even better!

Tap for spoiler

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ari_verse@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 03:36 collapse

For doing Kodi GUI setup changes in a headless setup in the RPis remotely, I use a VNC server installed in them that I start on-demand (when needed), e.g dispmanx. Needing this is a once-in-a-few-years type event, but yes you need this installed just in case.

greylinux@lemm.ee on 19 Jun 00:35 collapse

I use Music assistant , an add on for Home Assistant. All managed in the home assistant app and played through my sonos speakers. Its great

ari_verse@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 04:21 next collapse

This project shows a lot of promise and I am following it. I run HomeAssistant as well in my home server. At this time though (or:last time I checked) it didn’t support cuesheets at all, it fell a little short for my use case.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:52 collapse

when i first saw and played with music assistant i was absolutely amazed for a bit. the ability to sling tunes to any device that can be seen on the network with all metadata available on a home assistant (adjacent) dashboard? sign me up! i was thrilled at the audiobook/podcast support as well. able to tie in tidal and local music with announcement capabilities… just awesome!

i can’t remember the exact reason why but it didn’t quite work perfectly for me, as far as “checking all the boxes”

the companion app wasn’t quite designed to be a music source and would stop playing if screen was locked for a few seconds? on webpage it is like, constantly spamming KDE connect to continue playing, even when sending to another device.

i am following music assistant for sure though!

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:29 collapse

My favorite use case for MASS is my desktop PC, in our bedroom, has a decent 5.1 sound system, and is running squeezelite.

I have an alarm automation that starts playing from the random 500 playlist.

When my phone connects to my car’s Bluetooth, it transfers the queue to my phone, which is running snapcast on a VPN.

When my phone disconnects from my Bluetooth, and I am at home, it transfers any queue from my phone back to my desktop.

If I’m not at home it just stops the music, otherwise it’ll start playing through the phone speakers.

While at work, I’ll use Ultrasonic rather than music assistant, because my data inside my work area is sporadic, and not conducive to a good musical experience with how MASS streams.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:44 collapse

holy shit this is the kind of stuff that piques my interest! Flawless location hopping eh? is this descended from the old Logitech platform? will CERTAINLY look into this

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:53 collapse

That I’m not sure of, I know MASS uses snapcast internally, and can stream to LMS/squeezelite players.

I also wouldn’t call it 100% flawless, but it works well enough for me.

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Jun 21:57 next collapse

I just keep all of my music in an NFS share on my NAS and play it with Rhythmbox or VLC. I keep a compressed copy on the SD card in my phone to listen to when I’m not home.

oshu@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 23:07 next collapse

I picked up a Denon DNP-730AE network audio player on ebay and I run Tiny-DLNA on my server where the music files and playlists are stored.

Works great and sounds great.

vext01@lemmy.sdf.org on 18 Jun 23:06 next collapse

I just use syncthing to copy music to my phone sd card.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 23:16 collapse

ooo! what is the new syncthing hotness for Android? i enjoy it on the (linux) gaming PC’s but I’ve been wanting that for savestates and memory cards on my phone too!

vext01@lemmy.sdf.org on 18 Jun 23:17 collapse

Syncthing-fork on f-droid.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:01 collapse

thanky kindly for keeping me from having to duck duck go this beast!

Zykino@programming.dev on 18 Jun 23:18 next collapse

Nextcloud.

And a subsonic app. There is also another protocol available so you have quite the choice for which you prefer. Currently using Tempo.

Cyber@feddit.uk on 18 Jun 23:21 next collapse

MythTV for the main storage, stored in folders by my genre.

All metadata updated via Picard.

Syncthing to replicate to a Raspberry Pi (2 or 3, I don’t recall which) running Volumio with a DAC board to connect speakers to.

The Pi is in the bedroom, so I only replicate the genres that I want, which cuts down on storage needed on the Pi, and means I don’t need MythTv / NAS / etc. powered over night.

tuckerm@feddit.online on 18 Jun 23:22 next collapse

I use Funkwhale, which I have liked, but my use case is just streaming music through my laptop and listening with headphones. I don't think there is a client available that will run on your Autonomic streamer.

Funkwhale does have a subsonic API, so you could use a subsonic client, but you mentioned that didn't quite work before. (Is that what you mean by __sonic? I haven't actually heard that term.)

Funkwhale is nice, but I think for most people it doesn't (yet) offer any useful features beyond what Navidrome has, and probably even lacks a few things that Navidrome has. Funkwhale's main appeal is that you can follow someone's music library via the fediverse, although there hasn't really been a lot of use for that so far. Version 2 is coming soon, though, and adds a whole bunch of new fediverse features.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 23:30 collapse

that sounds cool! fediverse shit sounds great!

yeah my memory may be failing me but i seem to recall a bunch of things using an API with sonic in it i was lazy!

remon@ani.social on 19 Jun 00:17 next collapse

Plex Server + Plexamp.

4k93n2@lemmy.zip on 19 Jun 00:44 next collapse

after using jellyfin and emby for a long while ive gone back to basics, just local mp3s synced between devices using syncthing

something like KDE Connect might work for remote control as long as you are able to install it on both devices

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 09:31 collapse

KDE connect was an absolute divine discovery when i ran across it!

lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 01:37 next collapse

Navidrome, Feishin, Tempo.

cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 01:57 next collapse

Hosted on Jellyfin, Feishin on laptop and Finamp on mobile.

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 02:13 next collapse

Why do I see no mentions of Ampache here? From what I found, it was the only program except Navidrome to support nested smart playlist, and Ampache has the editor directly in the web interface.

Anyways, I host mine too! Over 2TB of music files on my server, and it runs pretty well.

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jun 03:18 next collapse

2TB? How!

Currently sat on 5GB across 920 files

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 04:38 next collapse

Well, I don’t actually play all of them in a straight line; it’s more of an archive. Still, my main playlist is few thousand songs long, which is created with smart playlists.

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:17 collapse

I’m close to a TB myself. For me, I’m a bit of a “completionist” and can’t stand having just 2 or 3 tracks from an entire album. Every track I have is accompanied by the rest of the album it was released on.

Sure, it means there are some duplicates at times, but it’s worth it to me.

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 08:23 collapse

Same. There are some tracks and albums I don’t like, but I won’t delete them. Another reason to use smart playlist, I can just put them into “Not My Style” playlist and it’s magically gone from my main list.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 19 Jun 03:37 next collapse

Wow. Maybe create some torrents out of your collection? 😉

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 04:37 collapse

They’re available in Soulseek! Both Soulseek and Ampache share the same directory. I was thinking of creating a torrent, but I am still in the process of deduplicating them, so I decided against it.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:43 collapse

slsk and nicotine+ have been so cool for so long!

i feel bad when im likely destroying someone’s uploads because i found a hidden treasure of FLACs from some older or obscure artists

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 01:44 collapse

Don’t feel bad, just share back :)

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 04:51 next collapse

Uncompressed flac? That’s a shit ton of music…

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 06:03 collapse

Item Count: 74939 | Duration: 5274:37:36

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:15 collapse

Damn, and I thought my 30k plus tracks was pretty large. I use Navidrome as a server and slskd as well

PieMePlenty@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 02:31 next collapse

Music folder on a network share. Navidrome and plex and jellyfin all have access to that library, then pick your poison for the client app. Plex is also DLNA enabled so my dumber AVR can access it too. I mostly use tempo app on android though. I’m a pinch, I can use navidromes web UI player to listen. The plex and jellyfin are mainly just a backup and overkill cause I can’t make up my mind.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:41 collapse

ooolala i didn’t think about a gauntlet to the death!

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jun 03:18 next collapse

I like using rygel currently, just run it by command line and media folders are available over the network. Any device with VLC can see it on the network and play.

nucleative@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 03:27 next collapse

E:\mp3

essell@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 05:33 collapse

I got an SMB sync app on my phone, stores any new music I’ve found into the network folder and syncs it up on my phone.

Sorted. Wherever I get more tracks from, they’re available on all my devices.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 19 Jun 03:34 next collapse

I just torrent the sht out of it. And put it on a USB stick. And plug it into my car. That's it.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:40 collapse

old school. tried and true. network agnostic. love it!

mat@linux.community on 19 Jun 04:15 next collapse

I currently host Navidrome, which has an okay web player. On Android I use “Tempo” (though it is unmaintained) to connect to it, and on Linux I use Tauon (though it has very poor playback). I could not find a native Linux client that is not buggy unfortunately, so I’m also on the lookout for better solutions! I’m not familiar with the device you are talking about but every client I tried supports MPRIS, which are the regular media controls that can be used via the playerctl command, so you should be able to hook things up that way.

bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Jun 04:29 next collapse

Can’t recommend symfonium enough it’s really great even better then plexamp

Routhinator@startrek.website on 19 Jun 05:27 next collapse

It is, but it requires GPlay to operate and maintain your sub.

I switched to Subtracks when I dumped Google.

kandykarter@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 05:50 collapse
mat@linux.community on 19 Jun 06:54 collapse

It looks really good indeed, and I don’t mind at all to pay for apps (I pay for FairEmail)… however it is very strange for me to add a nonfree app to the list I use every day… everything else is open source.

SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 06:25 next collapse

I have just set up Navidrome from the first time and I’m using Feishin as my Linux desktop client. I installed it via nix because it isn’t in the Fedora repos as far as I could tell

mat@linux.community on 19 Jun 06:58 collapse

I did use Feishin for a while, it’s an excellent music player but unfortunately not a native program. I might switch back to it from Tauon though, as actually playing the whole song before going to the next is a pretty nice upgrade hehe

harsh3466@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 06:59 collapse

Have you had problems on android with tempo not continuing playback?

I also run navidrome, and have tried tempo, substreamer, and another client I can’t think of, and any of the clients that stream keep stopping playback after one song when the screen is locked.

I’ve given the client all the permissions for running in the background and using battery that I can and no matter what I do, it’ll just stop after one song.

I’m on a pixel 7a with gOS.

For now I’ve settled on Poweramp with tla selection of the music on my phone since I can’t fit it all in storage. Its been really frustrating.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:38 next collapse

pixel7a gOS gang rise up!

harsh3466@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 07:53 collapse

🤜🤛

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:10 next collapse

Ultrasonic works fine for me, on my pixel9 with Navidrome. Plays in the background just fine as well.

harsh3466@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 09:11 collapse

I’ll give ultrasonic a try. Thank you.

mat@linux.community on 19 Jun 08:45 next collapse

Hmm no, I haven’t had this issue. Tempo works fine for me, it’s been mostly bug-free except for a few oversights:

  • search doesn’t work offline
  • can’t play AAC files
  • can’t skip songs via my Pebble watch

I’m (still) on a Pixel 3a, running LineageOS, in case that matters.

ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 02:50 collapse

Sometimes I get this error you mentioned but I’m usually driving and can’t see what track triggers this behavior but I guess this has something to do with the song format or codec. I usually just hit next and play to keep listening to my songs …

spyd4r@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 04:22 next collapse

Plex and PlexAmp

tko@tkohhh.social on 19 Jun 10:01 collapse

It’s unpopular around here, but Plexamp is fantastic.

charles@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 13:05 collapse

Completely agree. I paid for Symfonium after seeing a lot of people on here raving about it but I still ended up back with Plexamp. I’d be curious to hear what people find other apps do better than plexamp.

kalpol@lemmy.zip on 19 Jun 13:56 next collapse

The other apps don’t harvest my data, for one

gajahmada@awful.systems on 19 Jun 23:51 collapse

What did you dislike about synfonium? I’m considering switching since I don’t have a plex subscription anyway so I did not get to enjoy the sonic analysis featured etc.

charles@lemmy.ca on 20 Jun 08:17 collapse

I can’t say there was anything that I really disliked about it, I actually really liked the app overall but I’ve been using Plexamp since basically the first public release so that just feels a bit more familiar. Plus I heavily use the sonic analysis features which I don’t believe exist outside of plexamp (please someone tell me if I’m wrong here).

Fedditor385@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 05:06 next collapse

I share a Spotify family plan with friends, but I use Zotify to make backups, which I then host in Jellyfin.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 05:33 next collapse

My problem is that I cannot find a selfhosting solution that has the nuts to spool up 80k+ hi-res, original sourced, flac files that reside on two 10TB drives through my ancient technology. MusicBee is the closest thing I’ve come across, but that is local, and it struggles. I stay around the compound now days so local is ok, but it would be nice to stream out on the back porch without cranking my stereo to 11 so I can hear. I have bluetooth options but range is an issue.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 06:14 next collapse

if you can, don’t be afraid to pull some wires! i come from a low-voltage background, and am getting ready to run some cabling for distributed audio.

found some old control4 gear that can be controlled directly from Home Assistant, no control4 processor required!

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:12 collapse

Hello fellow hass/mass user. Also, what sort of low voltage?

Fire/security alarms? Or access control? (Or both)?

I do both, as well as CCTV.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 09:24 collapse

oh lawd i am glad to meet another out in the wild!

i was fortunate to start with residential alarm and A/V. due to a talent vacuum, leapfrogged to control system programmer/service, which allowed a few forks in the road (service manager, project manager and sales,) before bringing me back to my primary passion in this industry, AV programming and design.

but yeah I’ve installed my fair share of alarm panels, access control, thousands of camera systems.

but most of my shit has been fixing old rich people’s wifi and kids/grandkids AV

Object@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 06:49 collapse

Try Ampache! I host 75k files with it.

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 05:35 next collapse

Emby. It is so far, the nicest music client on iOS that I’ve been able to find.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 06:09 collapse

Howdy Fellow Emby user!

i did like using emby for music and podcasts, but i was always perturbed by having to dig through the emby app to get to music. i tried using a different profile for music only but then got annoyed at having to swap back and forth.

so at the crib, are you airplaying from your phone? what’s your audio pipeline look like?

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 06:47 collapse

I’m just using the app. I think it’s the nicest, most functional, and best looking music app outside of PlexAmp… however I absolutely agree with you that I really really wish it was just its own app… you can make this easier on yourself by editing the quick bar at the bottom of the app. When I open the Emby app it’s one tap to get to the music and then at least I don’t have to “dig through” it to get there.

I have an AppleTV4k Hooked up to my tv and 5.1 sound system so I can Airplay to that with my iPhone. Same goes for my HomePod in the kitchen when I’m cooking. If you’re not on iOS you can also cast to any device with an Emby app but there is less flexibility there.

I am in the same boat as you in that I’d love a dedicated app, I’m just waiting for one to come along that doesn’t suck. The FinAmp project had gotten me excited since it was ostensibly Jellyfin’s take on PlexAmp but it looks god awful and the functionality isn’t there. They have a beta version that’s a complete redesign but it also sucks terribly in my opinion.

Since you mentioned podcasts, AudioBookShelf as a back end with the “ShelfPlayer” app on iOS has been phenomenal. The ShelfPlayer app even works with my Oauth connection which is so awesome. Wish Emby or Jellyfin did that lol.

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 05:42 next collapse

local storage server as a backup and to download my music to my devices (ik jellyfin is better then this but i already had the storage set up)

[deleted] on 19 Jun 06:21 next collapse

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SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:36 next collapse

gonic looks cool! i am investigating more!

wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 07:45 next collapse

I’ll have to try DSub(2000), looks pretty nice. I’ve been using Ultrasonic. I do like that Ultrasonic allows you to browse cached files as if they were their own server, which DSub doesn’t seem to do.

[deleted] on 20 Jun 06:39 collapse

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wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 06:59 collapse

Only DSub or DSub 2000 as well? The former doesn’t look like it’s been updated in 3 years+

Nevermind, I found it. You have to hit “go offline”.

[deleted] on 20 Jun 07:07 collapse

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wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 07:13 collapse

DSub2000 is on Fdroid as well. Subsonic doesn’t change, but android does. DSub isn’t built for recent Android’s and as such FDroid won’t automatically update it. And some stuff might get increasingly wonky/broken due to API and SDK changes.

HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:07 next collapse

Wait. There’s a strawberry for Android? I use it on my PC…

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rando@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 09:41 next collapse

Strawberry doesn’t have android release, does it?

[deleted] on 20 Jun 06:39 collapse

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irmadlad@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 09:53 collapse

Gonic

Wow, I thought I had a large music collection. I mean, I can put the whole 80k on random and it will be months before I hear a repeat. 200k you’d hear a song and then maybe on your 80th birthday hear it repeat. LOL The larger majority of my songs are from Indie groups I used to promo.

I checked out Gonic.

beerclue@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 07:39 next collapse

Hosted with Jellyfin, for clients I use Symfonium on Android and Feishin on desktop.

crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jun 08:29 next collapse

I’ve just put it on an SMB share and use symfonium

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 08:41 collapse

people speak highly of this one. I’ll have to do a little research

yournamehere@lemm.ee on 19 Jun 10:09 next collapse

emby and shares. emby unlike jellyfish can mount remote smb shares right in the webinterface. proxmox/lxc and jellyfin is a pain in the ass you do not want.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 10:54 collapse

that was a big choke point for me for a while also!

…proxmox.com/…/guide-jellyfin-remote-network-shar…

i keep this in my linkwarden!

yournamehere@lemm.ee on 20 Jun 02:24 collapse

thanks. but am i blind or are they just giving up on getting in run in docker in lxc on proxmox?

“No clue about how to do it through docker in an LXC.”

it was a big choke point? that thread alone says dont use jellyfin.

bitwolf@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 12:46 next collapse

Plex + Synfonium

Also

Navidrome + Synfonium / Tempo

I’m trying out different things in prep to switch to navidrome. I’m impressed how lightweight it is and it hasnt required much work to fix up the library tags as most were already minimally tagged.

One I figure out a secure way to expose it behind auth I’ll be able to switch over.

Its been a heck of a time trying to get forwardAuth working with Zitadel so I’m trying out Authelia

un_ax@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Jun 13:11 collapse

I’ll second navidrome.

I’ve also added bonob to expose it to some sonos hardware I got for free. I’ve found it’s the easiest way to get custom music and streaming radio into sonos. Music Assistant buffers for some reason.

I’m having the same issues with exposing it. I have mine behind Caddy+caddy-security and it works well through the browser, but I haven’t found a native app that can handle that method. I think I’ll add it to tailscale eventually to work around that.

bitwolf@sh.itjust.works on 19 Jun 13:39 collapse

What I am hoping is that I can generate an access key auth in Authelia. Synfonium supports accessKey as an alternative to basic auth for subsonic.

Maybe you could try that with caddy-security?

Synfonium is closed source, but you can use the free trial to test, and buy it outside of Google Play (which is the only reason I haven’t dropped it earlier on my quest to de-Google)

Codandchips@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 13:19 next collapse

Plex and Plexamp. I know the dislike for Plex here, but it works for me and Plexamp is a fantastic piece of kit which, in opinion is worth the lifetime sub alone.

JasSmith@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 04:42 next collapse

Plexamp is mind blowingly good. Great UX. Perfect legibility. No discovery/ads up in your face. Just you listening to your music how you like it. Streaming is ROCK SOLID. Downloads work flawlessly. It just relies on proper metadata in Plex.

Ashzilla@lemm.ee on 20 Jun 14:58 collapse

Yep same, Plexamp is the reason I used plex still

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jun 13:22 next collapse

Navidrome + MusicAssistant

joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 16:12 next collapse

I also enjoy Navidrome. What does Musicassistant add for you? Seems like it can do a whole lot

beeng@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 Jun 02:10 collapse

Nice frontend plus Spotify integration for the library and then selecting different output sources from said frontend.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 17:48 collapse

i linked those together and will be testing further! i wonder what it offers over the regular smb share

tempo is slick!

domi@lemmy.secnd.me on 19 Jun 14:51 next collapse

I use Jellyfin with Finamp on Android/PC and the Jellyfin plugin for Kodi on my HTPC.

The Jellyfin plugin does movies/shows too and not just music but it handles music playback as well. For a dedicated music box I’m not sure if I would use Kodi for it.

Merlin@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Jun 15:33 next collapse

I got 500 gb drive pcloud with my pia socket 5 proxy/ vpn and i can play music files in their app so i put my flacs there.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 19 Jun 17:06 next collapse

Navidrome for me. Installed via Yunohost.

bmcgonag@lemmy.world on 20 Jun 09:46 collapse

This!

Mongostein@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 20:57 next collapse

I was going to try to host my music on Jellyfin, but I had an issue.

Since 2005 I’ve been curating my music collection with my old iPod that I still use.

I like my albums in release order so, with the iPod in mind, probably 80% of them are named [year] - [album]

Lidarr and Jellyfin won’t find them because of this and I don’t want to manually sort through 2000-some albums.

So I still use my iPod (20 years old next year!)

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 21:32 collapse

I still use an iPod too. Hard to beat even 20 years later.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Jun 22:00 next collapse

VM having a EXT4 disk on a ZFS storage.
Files are (usually) FLAC
Files are ripped from CD with Exact Audio Copy (EAC)
Alternatively they are bought or ‘lent’ out ;)
Files are managed by Lidarr.
Jellyfin for streaming.
On mobile I use Symfonium (alternative: FinAmp or Gelli).

Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 09:57 collapse

Basically my setup but without ZFS (kept randomly crashing entirely, probably not a great nvme) or ripped CDs, haven’t had a disk drive in over a decade lol

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Jun 10:13 collapse

The ZFS is in my case just TrueNAS. Can’t trust myself setting that up :D

Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works on 20 Jun 10:36 collapse

I tried to set mine up through Proxmox, after 3-10 days the whole ZFS pool would crash and I’d have to reboot the machine to get it functional again. I’m sure I either did something wrong with config or the 4 year old consumer nvme I had it set up on just couldn’t handle it lol

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Jun 11:03 collapse

Maybe the disk was running out of spare storage cells and ate into the actual data partition and corrupting the data table (if that’s even possible)

Takios@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 Jun 03:20 next collapse

Honestly just in ~/Music and stuff I’d like to listen to on the go gets copied onto my phone.

Wolf314159@startrek.website on 20 Jun 03:48 next collapse

Mpd + a frontend of your choosing, I prefer ncmpcpp, will run on just about anything and is remotely controlled through apps or ssh. Mpd is great when the server is physically connected to the audio output device. I use it to remotely control a speaker connected server that can also run Plex (because I prefer plexamp for streaming and syncing to my phone, other android devices, and smart speakers). They both look at the same directory of a collection near 30 years in the making with hundreds of thousands of files and a wide array of formats.

blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk on 20 Jun 08:07 next collapse

Have always preferred Emby. Have been running it for around 8 years.

jhdeval@lemmy.world on 20 Jun 13:35 next collapse

I use navidrome for the streaming and lidarr for downloads. I am not totally thrilled with navidrome as I can not play genres. I want to setup an icecast streaming server with individual “channels” for each genre

MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world on 20 Jun 14:30 collapse

MPD (Music Player Daemon) would be perfect for that old Autonomic - super lightweight, runs on practically anythng, and Symfonium is an amazing Android client that supports it natively.

SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world on 20 Jun 22:26 collapse

I’ve seen this a couple times but haven’t looked into it until now! do you play with this?