I made a self-hostable frontend for instagram.
(codeberg.org)
from irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 17 Jan 15:55
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61850820
from irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 17 Jan 15:55
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61850820
Inspired by nitter.
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Codeberg is down, what’s the URL?
My instance is kittygram.irelephant.net
Cool, thank you. Would be cool if we were able to follow accounts from there…
thats possible apparently: lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/23840511
LOL its broken already.
well Instagram is serious about ratelimits
Cool! Keeping up with platform changes is a challenge for projects like this. I think to be successful beyond initial popularity you need an active community that can do this together. It’s draining for just one person - especially once you get big enough that they might actively break things just to mess with your integration. Following maintenance of alternative YouTube clients as well as searx-ng is illustrative.
Not to discourage but be prepared. Best of luck!
https://cadence.moe/blog/2022-09-01-discontinuing-bibliogram
I’ve already read that article, the situation on Instagram has changed a bit, which makes scraping easier.
Ratelimits are still a problem if you don’t have a residential IP, but I have a workaround for that (which I’m hesitant to share publicly).
looks great! Thank you for making this
Doing the lords work, thank you
Pretty sure Bibliogram was inspired by Nitter before it became deprecated. Hope to see this flourish.
Isn’t it better to stop using Instagram at all? Insted of trying self-hosted shenanigans…
its better to quit heroin, but safe injection sites are good for public health
Still easier to uninstall an app than dealing with abstinence syndrome… but if you think beyond that stop watching asses on the internet is like stop doing heroin. So finally I think what you say is fair.
I’m not “using” Instagram actively, but sometimes I want to see a public profile and it doesn’t let me. Didn’t check this out yet but if it doesn’t need a login it could help with this
This doesn’t let you interact with Instagram, it just lets you view profiles/posts
I don’t use Twitter nor insta, but sometimes I get shared a link and nitter handy to check it out without an account. So I applaud this
This is how I use front end apps. Other than the data contained in the posts, I have no interest in Insta, FB, et al. Similar to how I use RedLib for Reddit because, despite Reddit turning into a cesspool, there are still some great technical subs that contain valuable info. Interacting on Reddit tho, is a hard pass.
Nice. After Bilbogram was discontinued, I believe we all were waiting for an replacement.
It would be cool if this was ActivityPub compatible so we could follow Instagram from Mastodon. As much as I hate meta, there are some artists I would like to follow still
Or even if it could provide RSS feeds of accounts, for following in a RSS reader.
Though excellent work!
I would like to add RSS, I don’t think it’s feasible cadence.moe/…/2022-09-01-discontinuing-bibliogram
I could add it, but have it disabled by default, so anyone hosting a personal instance can enable it.
Being able to set up personally hosted RSS feeds would be useful. If the feeds are fetched periodically, that could also allow archiving of accounts.
Check kilogram.makeup
awesome! i hope this stays around.
would be nice if it also saved/archived everything it downloads from instagram and sends it to the internet archive
Awesome work!
It would be great if people could stop using Meta services and software.
It would be great if people stop using social media in general.
Lemmy is social media
No, it is a social network. That’s different from social media.
What would you define social media as?
Oxford says.
That definition certainly matches Lemmy.
Social networking is about connecting people, which Lemmy as a forum does. You could argue that the function of Lemmy as a link aggregator is more social media like, but I doubt people would consider an RSS feed reader to be social media either.
Social media is like TV, a one-to-many medium, usually with some sort of feed curation to promote certain topics.
That’s a totally made up definition from your part. Media is the plural of medium, which means “intermediary”. A social media is just the middleman that allows people to socialize. Lemmy is a social media, as well as a social network.
Every definition is “made up” 🙄
What I explained is how these terms are commonly used on the fediverse.
And anyways, if “social media” and “social network” is the same, why have two different terms for it?
There are lot of synonyms, people just choose some words in different contexts based on how they sound. Why use the word “begin” when the word “start” exists?
You forgot the “from your part” that is quite important. Language is a consensus, you just invented your own definition and pretend that it is the consensus.
They’re not the same, it’s the square/rectangle thing. A social network is a kind of social media, all social medias are not social network. You could argue that Whatsapp is a social media but not a social network (but the frontier is getting blurry with groups and these kind of things).
Wat? Sorry, but your definition is even further from anything that could be called a consensus. You could maybe argue that WhatsApp is a social network, but it definitly isn’t social media and it is completly outlandish to claim so. Where do you even get the “media” part in it? You know, compound words are still made up of individual words that have a meaning by themself. Kinda funny that you accuse me of “making up definitions” 🙄
But sure there are some blurry edges between them. For example, Instagram is primarily used for social media, but the direct messages are more used like a social network.
I’ll quote myself because I already answered that: « Media is the plural of medium, which means “intermediary” ». That’s the textbook definition of the word media, and the consensus about what it means.
Whatsapp is the middleman/platform, thus intermediary (= “medium/media”), between two people socializing. I don’t understand what you don’t understand.
A social network is social media that allows to form groups or communities. Two people communicating is not a network, the whole point of a network is interconnection between members of a group.
No, that is not what “media” means. That might be what the original word in Latin meant, but in English it is used to refer to things like newspapers, TV channels and so on, and “social media” is a direct reference to that.
Indeed, and that is why I don’t really agree to classify WhatsApp as a social network, but it has chat groups, so it is closer to a social network than social media.
No, once again you’re inventing definitions, please have a read
You are funny. That article links directly to what media typically refers to, i.e. “mass media”.
Ask any typical person around you what they understand if you talk about “the media”, and they will confirm that this indeed refers to what I am talking about.
The “social” qualifier is a direct reference to how normal media is a one way street and how publishing is only open to a selected few and that is what sets “social media” apart from it.
I have never heard anyone refer to TV as social media, I have always heard it in context with facebook, twitter and co.
a better objection, which makes me uncertain whether lemmy is social media, is that this is a pseudonymous forum where its not common for users to become friends or know each other, and discussion is not around a specific news site or a specific person, but around specific topics
I didn’t say TV is social media, I said social media is like TV is the sense that it is a one-to-many medium. I could have also used TikTok to explain the difference, but people here are clearly confused about the destinction and it would have been less clear.
This isn’t really true for regular commenters. There are even feuds between specific users and so on. I agree though that there are constant attempts by some people who try to make Lemmy more like social media by advocating for dissolving the destinction between communities and instances to turn Lemmy into a dumb meme and news posting app for entertainment purposes.
Well Lemmy is not about that at all. I know absolutely Zero people from lemmy.
That seems to be a you problem.
Of course it is an pseudonymous online forum, so it isn’t about making friends in real-life, but you can make plenty of connections with people online via it.
That isn’t a problem, it is by design. I don’t want to follow you or anyone else. I don’t want to promote myself either. I absolutely do not want to make any connections with people here. I read the aggregated subject feeds, I get clarity or insights from the comments. And that is where it ends. Anonymity makes this all work.
Yes, and that is what connecting people means… talking to each other. NOT promoting oneself in a one-to-many fashion like what social media is about. Anonymous or not is of lesser relevance but it works either way.
Annonymity is extremely important. I don’t know you, you don’t know me. Nothing I say matters, nothing you say matters. There is no tone, no personality, just words. You could be a liar or a bot, it makes zero difference.
That isn’t very social at all.
Eh? It is what I say that matters. You have a very strange world view if you think just because there is only a pseudonym attached it doesn’t matter. And of course conversing with others is social 🙄
And you have a weird world view if you think being social is leaving posts on a forum to reply to some rando you will never know.
Again, that seems to be a you problem. There are plenty of places on Lemmy that have very recognizable regular posters and comenters you can socially interact with 🤷
Yeah I am sure some people do that. But I wouldn’t. Some people eat dirt too.
Its not a car, its a vehicle!
There is a difference between the two terms as well, so thanks for supporting my point /s
What is the social part? I change my name daily, and dont really give a shit about people following me.
Its social because you’re interacting with other people
No. I am reading an aggregation forum, and getting clarity and insights from the comments. I barely am interacting with anyone.
Look, this term didn’t even exist until the mid 90’s and didn’t take off in common use until the mid 2000’s.
The difference is Lemmy is topic centered thread first, discussion last, where social media is basically a self publishing, identity first platform. People put shit on instagram and facebook because it is about them (mostly). Here it is just news/stories with comments. And anonymity, which is what makes it all work.
I consider everyone here the same way I did when I was on a bbs: they are liars. Modern twist: they are liars and bots. Everyone is bullshitting and saying whatever they want, this is hardly a social event.
So is twitter not social media if you just use it to read hashtags, and get clarity and insight from the comments?
Other social media sites can very much be topic centered
You are right. According to the definition of social media, Lemmy is social media. However, “social media” would by definition fit any kind of digital communication media. A forum, or a blog, or an IRC channel are also, by definition, social media.
I would argue that the social media has a distinct association with Facebook, Instagram and the diverse spawns of those, and by association doesn’t fit anything else. At best, we simply lack a different term, which splits “old-school” stuff like forums and blogs. I view lemmy more like a forum. You have categories, and users can go into categories to start discussions. You don’t follow anyone. People also don’t create and post their own content, but rather seek discussions or share other stuff from the internet. Your goal is not reach, follow count or like count.
It is social media, but it’s definitely nothing like Facebook. We simply lack a better term.
I would definitely call a forum or IRC channel social media.
I wouldn’t consider blogs social media unless they had a very active comments section.
Media is more audio, video, image. Which fits social media.
Most forums and blogs are text-based or primary text. There is no blog sharing only images/videos/audio as posts. Also no such forum.
That would be my key differentiation - forums and IRC is social, but not really media.
Printed media is definately media, and so are blogs. The social part of it is how people can interact with it.
Awesome! Got it running and seems to work well. Also I love the
CLAUDE.mdfile you got there in the repo 🐈I’m happy someone noticed it
Read it now. It made my day a bit better :)
Why? Fuck Instagram.
On the one side, you’re absolutely right. On the other hand, people around us are still using it, especially Musicians and Artists. If I want to find out some concert dates or check the mail of a tattoo artist I like, sometimes I have no other option than checking Instagram, despite killing the artist of my list – which I do not want to :-)
I disagree. Billions are being made, data centers and AI machines are being built that use the electricity that could power 50 million homes, and that is Meta ALONE. Your tattoo artist and musicians are perpetuating it. Oh well, they don’t need my business. I don’t support people that do that.
If people keep saying “but I have to”, then fuck it, meta won.
I made this because I hate Instagram, but there’s still lots of valid reasons to use it.
No. There is no valid reason to use it. All this does is continue to enable a massive AI data center and Zuckerbergs billions. Walking away is the only viable option. It needs to go away, stop helping it remain.
Edit: Why would any one argue with this? Unless you are a billionaire, use of this shit is hurting you. Your environment, AI slop, your politics for fucks sake. Continued use is making your life worse for the sake of a handful of people enriching themselves from it, and you don’t care?
I was able to delete my Twitter account because of nitter, because I could view posts without logging in.
Just don’t get a court order by Meta like the other dude that created a front-end for Instagram. Can’t remember the name since it was before the pandemic. There was a lot of news about it in the FOSS community.
Obviously I’m not a lawyer but I don’t see what law they could use to shut it down. All it’s doing is accessing publicly available data via a proxy. It’s not like it’s exploiting Instagram somehow.
If they wanna stop it, they can do what Twitter did and start requiring an account to see almost anything. Personally I suspect Meta is slowly going towards that.
Good. Then they have nothing to say about :)
Barinsta was a full client, not just a simple frontend.
That was the name! And yes, you’re right. It was a full client.
Very cool. Guess I’ll have to use it on the PC rather than using istander.