Netbird The GOAT
from Tinkerer@lemmy.ca to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 26 Mar 17:32
https://lemmy.ca/post/62413633

I know nobody at Netbird will see this but I just finished setting up netbird via podman quadlets with traefik and its absolutely amazing!! I was using headscale before. I’m getting near at home speeds and I’m using the stun server as I can’t get a direct connection because of firewalls. The dashboard and documentation is mint and I can’t thank the people at netbird enough for the recent huge update that makes setting it up so much easier.

Next to my Home Assistant this is my second favourite and important piece in my homelab.

This is why I love open source!

Thank you!!

#selfhosted

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themachine@lemmy.world on 26 Mar 17:33 next collapse

What made you switch to it over tailscale+headscale? Currently that’s been doing everything I need without issue.

Tinkerer@lemmy.ca on 26 Mar 18:05 collapse

I could never get the self hosted stun server to connect so I was always using tailscales derp servers. Netbird is also fully opensource so that was the main reason I wanted to switch. I was also able to easily setup SSO with authentic and netbird which gives me 2FA as well.

slowmotionrunner@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Mar 18:38 collapse

If you were using derp servers with Tailscale/Headscale, that would explain why it was slow.

Tinkerer@lemmy.ca on 27 Mar 05:56 collapse

Oh yeah I know. I’m mostly only able to use deep servers and that’s why I switched because j wanted to be able to use my own deep server and not have to rely on tailscales.

stratself@lemdro.id on 27 Mar 06:31 collapse

FWIW, you can use Headscale’s embedded DERP server, or host your own. They need a STUN port and an HTTPS port

pfr@piefed.social on 26 Mar 18:32 next collapse

Hey, first I’m hearing about Netbird. Sounds amazing. How complicated was it to migrate from taliscale to netbird? I might need to do the same

Tinkerer@lemmy.ca on 28 Mar 05:55 collapse

It was relatively easy once I figured out that netbird doesn’t support a wildcard certificate. They just released and update that fixed that and they now support subdomains. I also do still have headscale as a backup if I need it.

coreray00@discuss.online on 26 Mar 19:52 next collapse

Simple and Secure Remote Access

NetBird combines a WireGuard®-based overlay network with Zero Trust Network Access, providing a unified open source platform for reliable and secure connectivity

https://netbird.io/

PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Mar 03:41 collapse

so this is a tailscale alternative, right?

billwashere@lemmy.world on 27 Mar 16:24 collapse

Yeah they overlap quite a bit.

Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Mar 00:36 next collapse

Currently ditching netbird because the Android implementation kills the battery and it makes it unusable.

I wish they would fix it, it’s been an issue for quite some time

Tinkerer@lemmy.ca on 27 Mar 05:55 next collapse

I actually had the opposite and the tailscale app would drain my battery when using one of my exit nodes. I will say the netbird app needs some love. My biggest issue is that it doesn’t stay connected or is able to reconnect when I change WiFi networks or go from WiFi to cellular.

Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Mar 09:54 collapse

Try Jetbird, it solved the connection issues for me, but drained the battery similarly for me

kilgore_trout@feddit.it on 08 Apr 23:00 collapse

I use JetBird instead, which at least in my case does not drain battery faster than in normal device usage with VPN disabled.

Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Apr 05:51 collapse

Sadly the issue is unclear but related to the netbird implementation and not the wrapper, jetbird is just a wrapper.

Personally I use jetbird as it does work betterz but it has the same battery issue

kilgore_trout@feddit.it on 09 Apr 23:36 collapse

I didn’t know, but did you spot this issue only with Netbird? Couldn’t this be due to the type of connection (P2P / relayed)?

Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Apr 23:41 collapse

This does not happen for me with tailscale.

Jetbird issue that ends with “this is a netbird issue”

codeberg.org/bg443/JetBird/issues/44

The unresolved netbird issue:

github.com/netbirdio/netbird/issues/1354

gjoel@programming.dev on 27 Mar 01:22 next collapse

I tried moving from tailscale to netbird, and while I did get access to my home assistant instance, I got unauthorized errors when trying to load mini graph cards on my dashboard. Instead of tinkering I went back to tailscale - at least for now.

zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Mar 07:56 collapse

Whats wrong with running both and tinkering on netbird till you fix it?

gjoel@programming.dev on 28 Mar 00:56 collapse

Ip addresses. Netbird uses the same ip when external, while tailscale has a different internal one. So I need to reconfigure the home assistant client differently for each.

Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz on 27 Mar 06:40 next collapse

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
HTTPS HTTP over SSL
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
SSO Single Sign-On
VPN Virtual Private Network

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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pathos@lemmy.ml on 27 Mar 12:50 collapse

Oh, I’ve been using Headscale so this combination interests me. I just took a brief look at their READMEs, but don’t understand how they work together, and maybe the combination isn’t popular enough for a guide for the integration. Can you explain a bit on how they work together?