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My First Homelab
from Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 21 May 22:59
https://piefed.social/post/777532

I’m new to this, and having a lot of fun.

I started with the Blackview MP80 running Ubuntu(Minecraft server on docker and Home Assistant in a VM)

Then I bought the BMAX for 82€ and moved HA on to it so I can wipe the MP80 and play around with Proxmox and Nextcloud erc without breaking my home automations.

Yesterday I got the Hardkernel H4+ with 16gb ram and 2x 6TB 2nd hand commercial grade HDD’s (testing them now, 3 month guarantee)

Looking forward to setting up ZFS pools for the first time, ans probably move my Nextcloud AIO over to the TrueNAS app

My First Homelab

#degoogle #diy #hardware #homelab #nextcloud #selfhost #selfhosted

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dash_jackson@lemmy.ca on 21 May 23:18 next collapse

Homelabbing is fun…stay curious

generaldenmark@programming.dev on 21 May 23:34 next collapse

This looks so good! Nice job

justpassingby@sh.itjust.works on 21 May 23:41 next collapse

This is the way

dieTasse@feddit.org on 22 May 08:50 collapse

I have spoken

Damage@feddit.it on 22 May 00:27 next collapse

Watch out for the slippery slope!

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 00:53 collapse

Way too late, I'm down the rabbit hole

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 22 May 01:41 next collapse

Give this man a rack, now!

HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee on 22 May 03:23 collapse

If he doesn’t want it, I’ll take it! 🤣

Cargon@lemmy.ml on 22 May 05:05 collapse

I started with something like what you have, and 8 years later I have an 18U cabinet that is completely full. Including 20 HDDs stuck all over the place with double-sided tape.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 09:59 collapse

It's a slippery slope

hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl on 22 May 01:01 next collapse

Have fun. :)

Side note: Never look at LXC/incus or home assistant or esp32 to attach. Rabbit holes everywhere.

Thorry84@feddit.nl on 22 May 01:06 next collapse

Just so you know, operating spinning drives this way is a bad idea. If the platters are spinning and the drive tips over, the rotation of the drives resists the movement. This gyroscopic force is enough for the platters to touch the heads which are flying a tiny distance above the platter. Obviously this is a bad thing and will damage the drives.

A quick fix is to just lay them flat or fix both of them together so they have a more stable base to stand on. Putting it in an enclosure is even better.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 22 May 01:43 next collapse

You gotta embrace the jank! Also, he’s got them in some kind of stand. That looks reasonably stable to me.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 02:20 collapse

I love my janky temporarily solution.

I made a stand of old ikea plastic parts I had laying around, screwed them together and have both drives supported from both sides and connected together.

If I directly bump the drive hard enough they'd fall, but I'm pretty confident I can shake the table really hard and they'll be fine.

I'm hoping to get a 3D printer to make a more permanent solution

GetAwayWithThis@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 May 02:43 next collapse

Thanks for the feedback! I am doing the opposite right now funnily enough. Trying to move away from having everything on Truenas as an app because of the host-app communication limitations. I have a bridge network set up but it still has its issues.

I’ll need to get some hardware to make this happen. At least to have a PCIe SATA controller I can pass through to a TrueNas VM so I can have everything on one physical host.

Nextcloud is on the list to try. For now syncthing was fixed up for filesync from my shoddy implementation of it yeras ago.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 03:02 next collapse

Nice good luck!!
I think I'm going to keep NextcloudAIO as is, not having everything in one place feels better and safer.

dieTasse@feddit.org on 22 May 08:47 collapse

I have recently moved adguard and home assistant to raspberry pi, same reason, though the hass I have moved into docker container with host network in the end. I also installed tailscale directly to have easy setup as an exit node.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 22 May 02:54 collapse

Nooooo! Don’t shake the table!

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 03:00 collapse

lol I won't those HDD's are like my babies, I'm very careful with them, that temporary stand while not foolproof is solid, but I have no plans of testing it out now that the drives are in there

4k93n2@lemmy.zip on 22 May 11:00 collapse

wrap a nappy around them. that will help reduce any vibrations haha

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 02:18 next collapse

Thanks this is a very temporary solution until I can 3D print a better solution or buy an better temporary solution.

It's pretty stable I have a make shift stand, and I'd have to bump them pretty hard for them to fall over. If I shake the table hard they definitely won't fall

ashaman2007@lemm.ee on 22 May 07:52 collapse

Yeah knocking them over while active would probably not be the best, you can even hear the stress on the spindle bearings if you rotate a running hard drive. However you should be free to mount them (securely) in almost any orientation given the discussion in this old post: www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=215…

GetAwayWithThis@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 May 01:38 next collapse

How’s your Nextcloud holding up now? I am undecided between a separate host vs the Truenas app. I heard that the TN app likes to break on update but I didn’t have the time nor infrastructure to test it thoroughly yet.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 02:26 collapse

Currently I have Nextcloud-AIO running on proxmox in a docker LXC and it's been great, very stable and I like the setup. It's also officially supported by Nextcloud.

I'm considering moving it over to TrueNAS but I need to look at the Pros and Cons, it would be nice to have everything in one place, but that also comes with drawbacks and risks.

sxan@midwest.social on 22 May 03:15 next collapse

TBH what I saw first is that you connected a fan to some hard drives and called it a homelab.

It was pretty funny for the half second it lasted.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 14:20 collapse

I thought that was a modified power supply

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 22 May 04:08 next collapse

2x 6TB 2nd hand commercial grade HDD’s

wow. I was wondering what these five inch tanks were. Haven’t seen one in a while.

Also spinning drives should be stored either horizntally or vertically for all their life.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 22 May 11:36 next collapse

Strap them onto a scrap piece of wooden board for stability. You could then hang the board vertically to save space.

This sort of metal strapping works great:

unphazed@lemmy.world on 22 May 12:51 collapse

Hid a pc into a bar of my mobile home this way. All parts were either screwed into plywood or strapped with zip ties. I hated the wasted space. It had a 24x28" space with no door (Fixed with a scroll saw, magnetic close, and some hinges). I added a very small plywood shelf for DVDroms and usb drives, and just attached the board to the inner wall. Used a hole saw on the tabletop for I think 2" (just big enough for a VGA connector, and ran all the cords into the cabinet. Worked well, then I moved into an actual house. Still loved it more than apartment life. Coolest part was no one ever saw the door unless I showed them (which was great cause that cut was waaaaavy)

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 22 May 23:16 collapse

Did it have a spinning hard drive? I shudder to think what happens to it in a mobile home. After just a few years, all my posessions were finely sandpapered on the outside.

unphazed@lemmy.world on 24 May 12:35 next collapse

A mobile home doesn’t really mean mobile always. In this case, just moved from one area to another. A trailer home. Wasn’t bad either, 16x60, insulation sucked though. I had industrial laminate from an old shoe store, copper pipes, landlord let me keep a 20x20 yard and 400x20 garden, for $100/month (8 yrs ago). Paid $3k to buy it preowned, 2k to move, and about $500 in cleaning and repairs (floor and various things were free sourced mostly), sold it after 6 years for $3k with no cost to move it again.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 25 May 01:39 collapse

insulation sucked though

Always a problem with mobile homes.

Paid $3k to buy it preowned, 2k to move, and about $500 in cleaning and repairs (floor and various things were free sourced mostly), sold it after 6 years for $3k with no cost to move it again.

Very similar story to my last one. I get nostalgic sometimes - a converted UPS van painted red, wood paneling & wood furniture on the inside, a wood burner, solar panels on the roof…

unphazed@lemmy.world on 25 May 12:13 collapse

Worst part was after we stripped the carpet and bleached the shit out of it (dog urine). Saw a tiny bug scirry across the floor. Little did I know it wasthe beginning of a war against german cockroaches. It ended with gel bait on every wall, and 10 fog bombs (for my home size it whould have been 5) to nuke the bastards into oblivion. 4 damn months with those fuckers.

unphazed@lemmy.world on 24 May 12:35 collapse

And yeah, it was a HDD on its side. No issues really.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 22 May 13:44 collapse

Welcome to the most frustratingly satisfying journey you’ll ever untertake. Next thing we’ll see is the lights dimming when you reboot your server(s).

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 22 May 14:24 collapse

I can't imagine why anyone would put themselves through the insane amount of effort it takes to figure this stuff out and set everything up. Yet I love it, just want to keep tinkering and doing more

Bronzie@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 04:44 collapse

Yeah it makes no sense, yet it’s so much fun when stuff finally works like it should!

Everybody loves using Jellyfin at home, but they think I’m mad for spending countless hours setting up everything the first time, then a second time to improve, then a third time as I migrated HW.

Keep having fun with it mate! The possibilities are endless