Fingers crossed for fluxer but we’ve yet to see if it’s self hosting meets basic requirements yet like no outside server contact, no centralised accounts etc
BingBong@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 07:30
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Has anyone used ROMM? How is it?
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
on 19 Jun 07:31
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hosting it since long time… Amazing! Great to be able to play directly in browser. My kid loves it…
Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 17:56
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What’s romm?
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app
on 20 Jun 18:00
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A hosting service for games. Feed it games and it allows you to download them from your server, manage saves, emulate in browser… A bunch of stuff. It’s a good project.
Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Jun 22:40
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I’m going to have to give Ignis Note-Taking app a try. Skimming the github it appears to be a front end for Obsidian that runs in your browser. You don’t need VNC to access it. That’s worth checking out. The Linuxserver Obsidian version uses VNC to admin and take notes which was always a point of contention.
If you want notes “sometimes on the web, sometimes local first”, and possibly more than just notes (with the tools to extend into an actual knowledge base), you might be better served by triliumnotes.org
I’ve tried Trillium, and not to say it’s trash, indeed it’s a good set up. Something about Obsidian just seems to appeal to my ‘flow’ I guess you’d say.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website
on 19 Jun 08:06
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Does someone self host this ? I’m fidgeting with the idea to run this or Element for one or two friends group, how this affects your PC and your internet speed ?
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden
on 19 Jun 09:08
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Wdym “this”? Fluxer?
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website
on 19 Jun 09:35
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Yup
guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip
on 19 Jun 09:55
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I’m hosting fluxer and matrix, but fluxer is fantastic. One consideration, for some reason the documentation doesn’t tell you that you need to go to the admin page, create a voice region, and a voice server, to actually use the voice chat that’s part of the guide.
If you want a mature ecosystem, try out matrix, although it is much harder to figure out how to host it.
If you want something that’s intended to be a perfect discord replacement, go with fluxer, they did an amazing job with the self hosting guide.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jun 17:20
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I’m in the middle of perfecting a guide for one type of Matrix server, based on my own experience (Proxmox LXC, Continuwuity, token based registration), will update this with a link (placeholder comment)
ace@lemmy.ananace.dev
on 19 Jun 11:26
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I’m holding off on Fluxer until they decide how they’re going to implement federation, since the designs they’ve communicated publicly so far have all seemed like they prioritize siloing and putting excessive load on self-hosted nodes.
Their first proposed solution would’ve required each self-hosted server to be able to handle every user on every other server in the network - a proposal which they’ve since scrubbed from their page.
The latest proposal I can find at least speaks about aggregating connections through the users server, so it’s not as insane (Only requiring each self-hosted server to be able to handle requests from every other server on the network). But it still forbids intelligent caching, and instead seems to consider recommending the use of cloudflare to reduce the load from their design to be a good solution.
u_tamtam@programming.dev
on 19 Jun 23:38
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I’m holding off on Fluxer until they decide how they’re going to implement federation
Seems wise. They seem competent in the front-end/client space and complete amateurs in the (difficult) protocol space. There is no example of successful tech (that I know of) that successfully added federation/P2P after the fact. It’s not an afterthought, it probably won’t ever happen.
kokomo@reddit.kokomo.cloud
on 20 Jun 06:09
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I’m happy that they are letting a open discussion on federation happen in their fluxer developers channel, they want to get it right, so slow and steady is the path they are taking. It’s a high priority in their roadmap on github
Don’t do Element, Matrix is a nightmare (and a significant commitment) to self host. Other servers (recently, continuwuity) are a bit better on that front, but then you run into compatibility issues and edge cases as a forever second-tier citizen.
My advice is to just go with XMPP and ejabberd, and you will find clients for all kinds of usages and people (a free-er WhatsApp takes you to Conversations/Quicksy/Cheogram/Monocles/Monal, a better banquet/IRC-style rooms takes you to gajim/fluux, social networking and group calling takes you to Movim, etc).
Personally my needs are covered by Monocles on Android, Gajim on the PC, and Movim on occasions. Using multiple clients around the same protocol and account is a strength, not a weakness.
doogstar@lemmy.100010101.xyz
on 19 Jun 09:53
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Wow, this is the first I’ve seen the reduction of Oracle free tier - will dig into that before I get an unexpected bill!
UninvestedCuriosity@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 00:48
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I’m waiting to see if a bill goes through in my country before pushing my friends into a self hosted messenger but it’ll probably be something xmpp based.
I love that Habitat releases automatically get a mention here now! But just to set the record straight: there is no “anonymous likes” functionality, this will be referring to the change in which you now see a message encouraging you to log in or create an account when attempting to “like” a post. Who knew people actually read the changelog! I’ll be more careful with the wording in there going forward.
Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz
on 20 Jun 22:50
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
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LXC
Linux Containers
VNC
Virtual Network Computing for remote desktop access
XMPP
Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (‘Jabber’) for open instant messaging
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This is good I think…is it ptp encrypted???. I’m using simplex at the moment.
That Lightbulb one is amazing
Despite coming from Epic, lore seems really interesting (and potentially pretty useful) for my use.
Fingers crossed for fluxer but we’ve yet to see if it’s self hosting meets basic requirements yet like no outside server contact, no centralised accounts etc
Has anyone used ROMM? How is it?
hosting it since long time… Amazing! Great to be able to play directly in browser. My kid loves it…
What’s romm?
A hosting service for games. Feed it games and it allows you to download them from your server, manage saves, emulate in browser… A bunch of stuff. It’s a good project.
Sick.
I’m going to have to give Ignis Note-Taking app a try. Skimming the github it appears to be a front end for Obsidian that runs in your browser. You don’t need VNC to access it. That’s worth checking out. The Linuxserver Obsidian version uses VNC to admin and take notes which was always a point of contention.
If you want notes “sometimes on the web, sometimes local first”, and possibly more than just notes (with the tools to extend into an actual knowledge base), you might be better served by triliumnotes.org
I’ve tried Trillium, and not to say it’s trash, indeed it’s a good set up. Something about Obsidian just seems to appeal to my ‘flow’ I guess you’d say.
Does someone self host this ? I’m fidgeting with the idea to run this or Element for one or two friends group, how this affects your PC and your internet speed ?
Wdym “this”? Fluxer?
Yup
I’m hosting fluxer and matrix, but fluxer is fantastic. One consideration, for some reason the documentation doesn’t tell you that you need to go to the admin page, create a voice region, and a voice server, to actually use the voice chat that’s part of the guide.
If you want a mature ecosystem, try out matrix, although it is much harder to figure out how to host it.
If you want something that’s intended to be a perfect discord replacement, go with fluxer, they did an amazing job with the self hosting guide.
I’m in the middle of perfecting a guide for one type of Matrix server, based on my own experience (Proxmox LXC, Continuwuity, token based registration), will update this with a link (placeholder comment)
I’m holding off on Fluxer until they decide how they’re going to implement federation, since the designs they’ve communicated publicly so far have all seemed like they prioritize siloing and putting excessive load on self-hosted nodes.
Their first proposed solution would’ve required each self-hosted server to be able to handle every user on every other server in the network - a proposal which they’ve since scrubbed from their page.
The latest proposal I can find at least speaks about aggregating connections through the users server, so it’s not as insane (Only requiring each self-hosted server to be able to handle requests from every other server on the network). But it still forbids intelligent caching, and instead seems to consider recommending the use of cloudflare to reduce the load from their design to be a good solution.
Seems wise. They seem competent in the front-end/client space and complete amateurs in the (difficult) protocol space. There is no example of successful tech (that I know of) that successfully added federation/P2P after the fact. It’s not an afterthought, it probably won’t ever happen.
I’m happy that they are letting a open discussion on federation happen in their fluxer developers channel, they want to get it right, so slow and steady is the path they are taking. It’s a high priority in their roadmap on github
Don’t do Element, Matrix is a nightmare (and a significant commitment) to self host. Other servers (recently, continuwuity) are a bit better on that front, but then you run into compatibility issues and edge cases as a forever second-tier citizen.
My advice is to just go with XMPP and ejabberd, and you will find clients for all kinds of usages and people (a free-er WhatsApp takes you to Conversations/Quicksy/Cheogram/Monocles/Monal, a better banquet/IRC-style rooms takes you to gajim/fluux, social networking and group calling takes you to Movim, etc).
Personally my needs are covered by Monocles on Android, Gajim on the PC, and Movim on occasions. Using multiple clients around the same protocol and account is a strength, not a weakness.
Wow, this is the first I’ve seen the reduction of Oracle free tier - will dig into that before I get an unexpected bill!
Fluxer? I hardly know 'er!
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I’m waiting to see if a bill goes through in my country before pushing my friends into a self hosted messenger but it’ll probably be something xmpp based.
Movim seemed cool
I love that Habitat releases automatically get a mention here now! But just to set the record straight: there is no “anonymous likes” functionality, this will be referring to the change in which you now see a message encouraging you to log in or create an account when attempting to “like” a post. Who knew people actually read the changelog! I’ll be more careful with the wording in there going forward.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
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