How can I contribute processing power to the community?
from kionite231@lemmy.ca to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 23 May 02:53
https://lemmy.ca/post/44600954

Hello folks,

I have a mini PC which I use to host my website and some lightweight services. The mini PC idles at ~10% cpu usage. I was wondering if I can contribute 90% of CPU to the community. Thinking that maybe I can host other people’s websites for free.

How can I do that? Should I host some fediverse software? What do I do with this much processing power?

Thanks in advance!

#selfhosted

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shiftymccool@programming.dev on 23 May 03:11 next collapse

You probably don’t want your server maxing out all day, your electricity bill will thank you

Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org on 23 May 03:18 next collapse

don’t want your server maxing out all day

But don’t you think about that poor server?

It is feeling so bored out and it’s whole life worthless…

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 23 May 05:26 next collapse

I don’t feel like it makes a huge difference for me and I run quite a few servers. It’s mainly the cooling costs in the summer months that run up the bill.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 May 07:17 collapse

It's just a mini computer. Most likely pretty efficient processor but also not very powerful.

Luffy879@lemmy.ml on 23 May 03:14 next collapse

No, you cant just „share processing power“

Also you could host something like a Lemmy instance, but then you had to get it federated, and mod it, and what not

If you want to do something good, host a snowflake proxy or something

bizdelnick@lemmy.ml on 23 May 03:17 next collapse

You may install BOINC and contribute to scientific computations.

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 23 May 03:48 collapse

Is there any way to exclude US projects, or only pick projects that are non-profit or open-source?

I wouldn’t want to waste energy on something that the Christian Taliban will likely destroy, or benefit from; or go to patented corporate research.

bizdelnick@lemmy.ml on 23 May 03:59 next collapse

Yes, you select projects that you participate in by yourself.

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 23 May 06:25 collapse

Noice

deur@feddit.nl on 23 May 03:59 collapse

That’s not really how this works

Scrubber0777@lemmy.ml on 23 May 03:18 next collapse

You can check out foldingathome.org (Folding@Home) projects, where you contribute your spare CPU or GPU power for various science research.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 23 May 03:58 next collapse

You could install peertube and share other peoples traffic.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech on 23 May 04:49 next collapse

Good intentions, but I would be wary of anything not official like foldingathome or boinc (both great projects I recommend)

The reason is other people are horrible, and while your intentions are good, it’s significant risk. Lemmy had a csam attack a while ago and I immediately moved my instance to the cloud because I learned that if I even accidentally hosted anything it means immediate seizure, self hosting it means they plow through my door and yank the servers.

Tor nodes, peertube, you open yourself up to that risk

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 23 May 05:24 next collapse

BOINC is great. In its day, you could get an enormous amount of computing power on a shoestring budget thanks to volunteers. It also helped the volunteers feel like they were more a part of something, because they were! I used to have a small server farm crunching numbers for science.

Unfortunately, the landscape has changed. Some projects are still around, but many of the big players have left. Computing power is a lot more accessible now, and the main limitation is time spent analyzing the data rather than the computation itself. Cloud computing can make just about any computation happen fast for a reasonable price without having to own all of that hardware. GPUs have exploded in computation capacity. Just, a lot of factors came together where the need isn’t as great.

With that said, I still run it on one mini PC, but the payoff for having to write your application in a distributed fashion doesn’t have the return on investment that it used to.

TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 06:36 next collapse

Where are you hosting your instance now? I’ve been looking into a cheap VPS for the things I’d rather not host on my personal home network.

captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org on 23 May 08:24 next collapse

K&T Host does Lemmy and it works great. Their support is stellar.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech on 23 May 11:50 collapse

I landed on digital ocean. Fair prices for a vpc and a reliable name

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 May 07:22 collapse

"my instance to the cloud because I learned that if I even accidentally hosted anything it means immediate seizure,"

That sounds a bit extreme. You are not hosting csam on purpose. And most likely try to moderate as good as possible.

I actually believe more people should host their own server. And get rid of the cloud. Not moving more to the cloud.

dgdft@lemmy.world on 23 May 07:42 next collapse

You are not hosting csam on purpose. And most likely try to moderate as good as possible.

Look up what “strict liability” means in a criminal law context.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 May 09:02 collapse

Well, I'm willing to take the risk then. I host all my fediverse services at home.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech on 23 May 11:50 collapse

Yikes. Good luck to you, noble goals, but there are real consequences for even unknowingly hosting that content.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 May 15:12 collapse

Tja.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 23 May 08:05 collapse

It doesn’t matter if you’re intentionally hosting it.

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 23 May 05:30 next collapse

If you’re willing to donate bandwidth, I suggest I2P or a public SyncThing node. My server chews through a terabyte of bandwidth helping people securely access their files. I also run Tor’s Snowflake proxy which helps users reach the network.

I2P is Java. SyncThing and Snowflake are written in Go which means you can’t pull off typical memory corruption attacks in these relatively safe languages, and it’s fairly easy to run them in a container.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 23 May 11:14 collapse

I2p has several implementations including Java

merde@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 06:39 next collapse

The Tor network relies on volunteers to donate bandwidth. The more people who run relays, the better the Tor network will be. The current Tor network is quite small compared to the number of people who need to use Tor, which means we need more dedicated volunteers like you to run relays.

community.torproject.org/relay/

Lyricism6055@lemmy.world on 23 May 22:45 collapse

Pretty sure tor is a honeypot… Not sure the alternatives though

Edit: maybe honeypot is not the right word, but at the nation-state level this won’t keep you anonymous I’m guessing. Good for normal people who want more privacy

FrederikNJS@lemm.ee on 24 May 14:40 collapse

That’s definitely not what I’ve heard, please elaborate.

Lyricism6055@lemmy.world on 24 May 15:28 collapse

Tor itself may not be, but private users are competing against NSA resources or something

Take everything I say with a grain of salt. I don’t think the protocol itself is broken with enough people doing exit nodes, and I think normal people will benefit from privacy granted by tor.

But I bet with high certainty that if the NSA wants you it can probably find you.

The below YouTubers I’ve seen before but I also can’t independently verify whether they are just click baiting or not…

youtu.be/pvBAaUPzvBQ

youtu.be/Ml99dXffRXk

non_burglar@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 07:06 collapse

Stop getting info from yt “infosec” channels.

No one uses single exit-entry gateways in tor anymore, and the widespread use of tor bridges, split exits and vpn (now that they’re quite fast) means it’s much easier for law enforcement to fingerprint traffic rather than sit and wait for someone to tilt their hand and reveal an exit node that will have moved in an hour anyway.

Think about it: if criminals were successfully moving illicit goods and hiding the comms, you think you would hear about it on YouTube, of all places?

Lyricism6055@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 08:20 collapse

You’re saying law enforcement can easily fingerprint you? Or am I misreading what you’re trying to say?

non_burglar@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 08:59 collapse

You’re saying law enforcement can easily fingerprint you?

Yes. The days of Maltego are behind us, law enforcement now just file requests directly with Google.

Lyricism6055@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 10:34 collapse

Even on something like tor browser or tails?

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 23 May 07:19 next collapse

You could also use it for running more services at home 😬.
Thinks like Wekan, nextcloud, gitlab, matrix server, mbin, mastodon, grafana, mumble..

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 23 May 15:39 collapse

ok but there’ll still be a lot of idle capacity that can be put to good use. I relatively rarely browse I2P, but I’m happy to contribute bandwidth. It’s safe too, because I only see encrypted traffic coming from one relay and going to another one, and it does not run an “exit node”

Kirk@startrek.website on 23 May 07:38 next collapse

A Fedi instance requires a time commitment, there are some good suggestions in here but I recommend some alternative frontends.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 23 May 07:49 next collapse

  1. install gitlab-runner on your VM
  2. hook to a few projects as available runners
  3. do that again
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 23 May 08:08 next collapse

I’m guessing as a mini pc it doesn’t have much processing power to begin with, so barely worth it - especially when you look at the downsides of wear and tear on the machine, performance degradation for your own services, electricity bill increase, etc.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 23 May 11:12 next collapse

You could mine crypto on my behalf (I’ll keep the profits)

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 23 May 11:13 next collapse

I think lower CPU usage is good. CPUs tend to be the most efficient this way and it allows for sudden usage spikes without lag.

squid_slime@lemm.ee on 24 May 15:47 next collapse

Mine crypto to donate

Joelk111@lemmy.world on 24 May 23:42 collapse

You’d be better off directly donating.

squid_slime@lemm.ee on 25 May 02:48 collapse

I know, should of added /s

Zahtu@feddit.org on 24 May 16:17 next collapse

Use BOINC! Support scientific advancement

komorebi@sh.itjust.works on 25 May 01:03 collapse

ArchiveTeam Warrior!