PewDiePie Promoting Self-Hosting, Blocking Ads, Shorts and more (www.youtube.com)
from Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 13:43
https://piefed.social/c/selfhosted/p/1888359/pewdiepie-promoting-self-hosting-blocking-adds-shorts-and-more

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LodeMike@lemmy.today on 17 Mar 13:56 next collapse

I block minuses too

Sunny@slrpnk.net on 17 Mar 15:16 next collapse

Having such a big influencer as Pewds shout out selfhosting, ad blocking and general privacy improvements is a huge win, no matter what your opinion is of him.

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Mar 15:47 next collapse

Sometimes infinite monkeys do write the source code for doom and run it on a thermometer

teawrecks@sopuli.xyz on 17 Mar 16:11 next collapse

What concerns me is the implicit association people will make between him and FOSS, and anything they believe about one will carry to the other.

I have to assume there are already people who hear “Linux” and think “ugh, I wouldn’t touch that with a 10ft pole because I don’t want anything to do with Pewdiepie”. Similarly, if he says something dumb next week, and half his audience abandons him, they’ll likely have a negative outlook on FOSS going forward.

Either way, I don’t believe FOSS’ staying power comes from meteoric rises following a fad, it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time. On the scale of a few of decades, FOSS seems like it’s struggling against proprietary solutions. But just like the general concept of political democracy, I think on the scale of centuries it will become the clear, time-tested, least-bad option. But I digress.

QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 17:04 next collapse

Eh, don’t worry about it. If people are seeking out Linux for their own valid reasons, they’ll take what they need and leave what they don’t.

fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 17 Mar 17:53 next collapse

If they are at that level of critical thinking they would not have survived Linux anyway so, idc.

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 18 Mar 06:21 collapse

it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time.

ugh, tell me that if this bullshit with systemd and age verification isn’t true.

teawrecks@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 09:05 collapse

It’s already solved: FOSS means I can always fork/build my own package that does what I want. That’s why I mean it’s immune.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 17 Mar 17:18 next collapse

A win for who? Sounds like he will deter some people and attract others based on whether they think checks notes anti-Semitism is a deal breaker. Jesus Christ this is pathetic.

anthropozaen@feddit.org on 17 Mar 17:41 collapse

Antisemitism, based on that one clip where he deliberately did something controversial to check boundaries of freelancers? Perhaps it wasn’t the brightest idea he’s ever had to upload this but framing him as such is a bit much I think. Like with his bridge-incident, I don’t think anyone would seriously call him racist for that.

timestatic@feddit.org on 17 Mar 17:44 next collapse

Yeah like how many years ago was that? Lets just believe people can’t better themselves and hold things against them forever. What an awful reality that would be

Bronzor@lemmy.ml on 17 Mar 18:01 collapse

Friend… in a now deleted instagram post he was caught with a “international jewish conspiracy” book in the background.

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timestatic@feddit.org on 17 Mar 18:22 next collapse

Damn which one is this? The one in the middle? If so thats quite recent bc I follow his content and his pc build is pretty new. Crazy conspiracy theory nutjob content in there. Its a pretty huge red flag since it aligns with the patterns in his edgy phase (during which I didn’t actively follow him). Makes me sad to think I might have had a lot better image of him as a person in my head as what he really is. Thank you for informing me. I mean technically he could just be curious in obscene conspiracy theorists. Like people can read religious text while being atheist or read Mein Kampf as a historic artifact. This book does seem more fringe tho. As long as he is not promoting this kind of belief. Makes me think if all this together makes a different light of him tho. Maybe he owns the book from back then and didn’t throw it out. But he moved from the Uk to Japan so I still wonder why he would’ve kept it.

flyby@lemmy.zip on 17 Mar 21:15 next collapse

I wouldn’t assume that he supports any of the book content just from having it on the bookshelf. You are not a nazi for having Mein Kampf on the bookshelf (worst example I can think of and it would be uncomfortable at most). If all you have on bookshelf is nazi/conspiracy propaganda though then it’s another topic

Tonava@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 01:05 collapse

He’s read and reviewed all sorts of books, but as far as I know the only questionable one of those was the first Jordan Peterson thing (which he did criticize as well), so I don’t know how a single book he’s never talked about would flag him as anything. Sure, if he actively tried to preach what’s written in it or encourage people to read that stuff, but I agree that just owning some book is a pretty poor basis for accusations.

He has the platform, so if he’s a raging racist or antisemitist, why isn’t he using that for preaching those then?

flyby@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 03:40 collapse

One argument I heard about him throughout the years is that he is just afraid of retaliation so he dogwhistles instead but in this day and age nobody who is actually a nazi or conspiracist hiding it anymore and they are not getting any repercussions…

Tonava@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 04:03 collapse

Yeah, why go through the trouble? My analysis on him as a nordic neighbor is that he’s just some random middle-class swedish guy, that got big and tried to live like he’s regular dude instead taking responsibility for such a big influence.

A lot of the controversy seems to stem from USAians thinking he’s one of them just because he’s seen as american white, not understanding that he comes from an entirely different culture. For example I didn’t personally even grasp what a voldemort-type of a thing “n-word” is across the ocean until he did the bridge idiocy, and I doubt he understood either. There exists nothing like that in nordic cultures, we can say pretty much anything and the “forbidden words” are more just “don’t call people that”. The history of racism here is very different

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 18 Mar 01:18 collapse

he fled to japan until all the drama blew over the years, most people forgot about him and latched on to the enxt big influencer, mr beast and the likes.

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 18 Mar 01:04 next collapse

How is having 1 book on ur bookshelf enough to condemned a man. I have mein Kampf on my bookshelf sitting right next the communists manifesto and 1984. Does that make me a communist or a Nazi? How can u hope to defeat an ideology for which you do not understand?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.” - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)

anthropozaen@feddit.org on 18 Mar 03:14 next collapse

So ok he owns a book about some conspiracy theory, I didn’t know that. He read a lot and even talked about books some years ago. Who knows how he got the book, if he even read it, if he agrees with it’s content. Maybe he didn’t and still doesn’t want to get rid of it for some reason or another. If he would actively talk about it or so it would be a different story.

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 10:36 collapse

that is not a “jewish” conspiracy book. iv read it and yes "enslavement is a strong word for it. but it does illuminate a few patterns on the growth of economy and abuses within them over history.

and also if it carried no weight then why is it widely banned.

Bronzor@lemmy.ml on 18 Mar 10:58 collapse

The author is a god damn holocaust denier. Propoganda doesn’t always outright state it’s goals my friend.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Goodson

He is the embodiment of “jews control the banks and the world” argument.

EDIT: Verbatim in the fucking wikipedia:

“Despite his career, Goodson was also an active commentator with regards to the problems of the central banking system, writing the book A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, published by blackhouse publishing limited. In this book, the author narrates a brief history of finance and central banking in the Western world, from the Roman Republic to the 2008 financial crisis and maintains the existence of an international jewish conspiracy to control nations through banking, led mainly by the rothschild family from the 19th century onward.”

You wanna correct your statement on it not being about that now?

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 12:19 collapse

hmm, it might have just been me overlooking a lot of those aspects of the auther stateing and implying a “jewish” conspiracy for me personally. i just recognized it is banking institutes spreading their influence and what that entails rather then solely 'THE JEWZ ARE BEHIND IT" cuz if they were, theyre be way more evidence of that if it were true.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 17 Mar 20:17 collapse

He’s too dumb to be intentionally racist but he’s a great spoke person for your cause. 🙄

anthropozaen@feddit.org on 18 Mar 03:02 next collapse

Spokesperson for “my” cause? Tell me more.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 18 Mar 08:03 collapse

You have two masters and one is problematic. It’s nice that your master said kind things about the other, but you still have two masters.

Edit: I don’t follow the guy, I only know that this is a good thing only IF y’all convince others PewDiePie is a good guy actually.

anthropozaen@feddit.org on 18 Mar 09:00 collapse

Bro are you schizophrenic? What are you talking about, I have no “masters”. And I don’t say that pewdiepie is a “good guy”, I just said that I wouldn’t judge him based on such minor things.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 18 Mar 09:50 collapse

It’s an analogy that illustrates that you are doing his PR work in order to serve an unrelated cause. Is that clear enough to understand or do you want to send people with butterfly nets after me?

H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 06:22 collapse

“Too dumb to be intentionally racist”? I want to understand your comment more as I feel most people who ‘choose’ to be racist are pretty stupid. I can only imagine exceptional cases like politicians or leader figures who use fear and hate to get more power.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 18 Mar 07:58 collapse

I think you make a better point than I did. I am responding to someone looking at a racist act and insisting it wasn’t racist but stupid.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 17:19 next collapse

fuck you

starik@lemmy.zip on 17 Mar 23:05 collapse

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Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 18:19 next collapse

He helped usher in this new enshittification. He was the Trojan horse. First one to reach a million

real_squids@sopuli.xyz on 17 Mar 20:21 collapse

you think he has influence over youtube’s business model decisions?

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 06:30 collapse

You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame. Would you say that your MAGA uncle doesn’t control Trump so isn’t responsible for his actions.

Pewdiepie is literally called an influencer. He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar. That has given all these corporations fuel to create content and that content is stealing our data, eliminating data scarcity and used to influence politics.

He’s not the cause of it but he was an inflection point and could have went in a different direction to push kids to reject this new paradigm. Instead he was the face of it.

real_squids@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 06:49 collapse

You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame

I don’t, that’s something you made up about me in your head. I think that YouTube’s business execs would always lead it to where we are now.

He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar

He made gameplay videos. I think that’s the most benign form of “influencing” there can be. I think there are much more damaging channels that had way more sway in shaping this new generation.

Again, I’m not saying he’s a saint but I do think he’s ultimately insignificant when looking at the causes of and reasoning behind youtube’s enshittification. And I don’t think he would ever go a different direction, just doesn’t seem like the type.

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 07:11 collapse

He laid the groundwork for those shitty influencer. He had the attention of young people who looked up to him. The minute they saw he could make millions by becoming the walking embodiment of a Nascar fender he set the attitudes and aspirations of a generation.

Would YouTube continue without him? Yes of course.

Could he have pushed back and created helped influence a generation of kids to reject the selling out of themselves to this influencer culture? Absolutely.

There were a few influencers in those early days that could have changed things or at least maintained the zeitgeist that we had then. Nobody did. That money was too good. Everything after he made that first million would change how the internet worked.

He was the inflection point. He could have impacted everything going forward. He could have told kids that these companies were stealing their data. That they were soliciting gamers to use as Trojan horses for what would eventually make everything worse.

new_world_odor@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 07:34 collapse

To call him the inflection point, as if this wasn’t a more complex change emerging over time, is ridiculous. You are clearly speaking from an outside perspective. He has never come close to flashing his wealth or showing a ‘lifestyle’, anything that has came definitively after his peak. The influencer issue was also far more complex. Instagram was the central breeding ground for those types, and twitter was still conversationally relevant.

Even if he was the inflection point, what now? You expect someone at the center of things to realize their unique position, and then realize the most morally correct thing (to you) to do about it? Patently ridiculous, hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to larger cultural movements like influencers.

Calling pewdiepie an influencer shows how little you understand that sphere. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 07:53 collapse

What is an influencer?

Since you said I’m wrong, what is the inflection point that I’m describing?

Did I say he flashed his wealth?

I do expect people to be aware of their impact, directly and indirectly, especially on kids. The more people you can potentially impact, the greater the responsibility to be aware.

Is data collection, exploiting children to sell products, and the consequences of profit-seeking something that we weren’t aware of at the time PewDiePie became famous?

I agree PewDiePie didn’t sell things to children. He didn’t need to. He was the product. I’m against commercial pressure on the internet, which seems like a radical concept now. PewDiePie didn’t need to hawk products to kids i know he did a good job with that. But he was the product. He was the point at which kids saw they could become a gamer and help commercial sites collect people’s attention and sell it to advertisers. That model is what broke everything. It turned the internet into cable television 2.0.

We already had corporate-approved media that was just a way to sell our attention. The internet, for a brief moment, was something for us. It was as close to a gift economy as we could get. It was the difference between a lawn sprayed with glyphosate to kill anything that wasn’t good old American Texas bluegrass devoid of originality, beauty, or color but looking neat and a lawn allowed to grow wild, full of weeds but also flowers, plants, and life.

PewDiePie wouldn’t have been the only one to make money, but he was the first to hit that milestone, and everything changed after that.

cecilkorik@piefed.ca on 17 Mar 18:32 next collapse

I’m always open to somebody’s redemption arc, even if I dislike them. The great thing about people is that we are capable of growth, even if not all of us always grow in the right direction, we always can.

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 04:52 collapse

What redemption? Where are his fediverse channels at?

MrKoyun@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 05:48 collapse

…one step at a time, dude. This kind of thinking just serves to make perfect the enemy of good.

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 06:00 collapse

It takes 2 minutes to create an account on the fediverse, they are not interested in that, they are on youtube for the profits.

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it on 18 Mar 06:17 next collapse

Thay may not even be aware of the fediverse for all we know, lmao

Janx@piefed.social on 18 Mar 07:11 next collapse

I’ll be sure to tell them how easy it is, if I enter run into them…

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 09:24 collapse

they [have a job] for [money].

Maybe us too, to be fair

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 04:50 next collapse

And having a youtube video on lemmy frontpage is a huge ad for google and a missed opportunity for an open alternative to become more popular

Sunny@slrpnk.net on 18 Mar 05:12 next collapse

Dunno about “huge ad” exactly… There arent that many of us here lol.

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 12:23 collapse

Not huge maybe but for what i care a big smack in the face to this open source and decentralized platform.

teslasaur@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 05:52 collapse

Do you get enough oxygen in that large intestine you live in?

Take the win and move on.

Magnum@infosec.pub on 18 Mar 15:59 collapse

It is true, I think so too. I never really watched any of his content, his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone, but his two or three tech videos were decent for a normie targeting normies. In total, he is big enough, that I think its a net profit for the cause.

NostraDavid@programming.dev on 19 Mar 05:41 collapse

his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone

He mended his ways, and didn’t do it again. What else do you want him to do, to atone for his sins?

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 15:18 next collapse

I think he’s a tool, but credit where it’s due: it’s great that he’s supporting the movement, and he does have a huge following.

aksdb@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 15:52 next collapse

Maybe he’s the right tool for the job

jpaskaruk@growers.social on 17 Mar 15:55 next collapse
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 16:30 collapse

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mastertigurius@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 19:07 collapse

I don’t think he’s as dumb as he seems in some videos. His persona and mannerisms are very much a pan-Scandinavian thing. To me it’s a throwback to the early 00’s, when we filled our brains with plenty of Jackass, Blink 182 and Eric Cartman.

chrislowles@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 05:04 collapse

His Filthy Frank/Pink Guy aping years are definitely evident of that lol, beastmaster64 swimming into the sea to catch a Pokemon made for some funny moments.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 17 Mar 15:28 next collapse

There’s some irony in that sponsor block has to block four segments of the video.

realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip on 17 Mar 16:10 collapse

I don’t think there’s any irony in people trying to make money with their work. And I’d much much MUCH rather have them insert multiple sponsors in a video that I can just skip over than worry about ads and their constant tracking.

0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Mar 03:58 collapse

The irony is making boatloads of money and then pulling up the ladder behind him while he can make his money anyhow, because he’s already got a critical base under him.

W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Mar 04:37 collapse

Just like the boomers.

jak0b@lemmy.ml on 17 Mar 15:37 next collapse

I love everything he has been doing recently. He is a master of story telling and goes surprisingly far into solving technology challenges, while keeping it fun and real. What an amazing transformation really 

Burghler@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 16:17 collapse

He did already have a background vocationally in this space so it wasn’t a transformation from nothing. Great stuff nonetheless!

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 15:48 next collapse

I don’t understand what’s going on with this redemption arc

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 17 Mar 16:23 collapse

Neither do I, but I’m all for it

ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca on 17 Mar 16:30 next collapse

I have no idea who this guy is. I’ve seen his name float around on the internet but never knew what he did. 

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 17 Mar 18:28 collapse

In short - he held the #1 most subscribed YouTuber for a period of time.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 17 Mar 23:04 next collapse

For longer than anyone else has Afaik

ZMonster@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 07:40 collapse

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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 19 Mar 11:07 collapse

Why are you like this?

ZMonster@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 14:12 collapse

Trauma. And a lot of therapy. But I just thought it was too funny to not post. I’m sorry. I can’t stop laughing but I am sorry if it bothered you.

ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca on 18 Mar 05:02 collapse

Why has he become so controversial?

SailorFuzz@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 05:43 next collapse

people with brainworms

DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 13:03 collapse

Casual use of the N word with hard R and Nazi jokes

ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca on 19 Mar 05:17 collapse

Oooof… ok.

paraphrand@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 16:37 next collapse

Many Welps left side

yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca on 17 Mar 16:55 next collapse

Good on him for this. I started self-hosting a couple years back, so my “tech fence” is already fairly complete, with a few glaring omissions, still a WIP.

I do wish he got someone to provide links to guides or wiki pages, but I understand that making people go out and search for things is also important, even if it’s a simple task to search on google/github for open source projects.

schwim@piefed.zip on 17 Mar 17:04 next collapse

I love to get the important self-hosting and ad-blocking info from my favorite anti-semite.

SailorFuzz@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 23:28 collapse

What a silly thing to virtue signal about.

“Hey everyone, I, too, know the meme about calling pewdiepie a nazi… why is he a nazi? Uhhhh cuz he is… cuz my other favorite quirky youtuber (and arent I cool for knowing him) hbomberguy said so in a viral vid 10 years ago… and that vid totally wasn’t capitalizing on pewdiepie being the largest youtuber channel in the world for any sensationalism and drama… or clipped in bad faith for a viral audience…”

schwim@piefed.zip on 18 Mar 05:02 collapse

It seems that every social influencer Nazi has his bootlickers, I guess.

SailorFuzz@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 05:13 collapse

Oh, yea, thats me, big nazi bootlicker.

There are actual nazis around and you dilute it to be meaningless when you compare real harmful actual nazis to fucking pewdiepie. No one should take you seriously. Log off.

schwim@piefed.zip on 18 Mar 05:36 collapse

No one should take you seriously. Log off.

Shocker that you actually handle online discussion with the desire to simply remove the people that you don’t agree with.

Much like a Nazi.

peacefulpixel@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 17:42 next collapse

you do not have to hand it to nazis fun fact

SailorFuzz@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 23:14 collapse

This is a very tired narrative. 10 years running based on one hbomberguy 14min vid.

nodiratime@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 04:17 collapse

Basically the lunatics version of the “one drop rule”. He is irredeemable in their eyes.

30p87@feddit.org on 17 Mar 17:59 next collapse

What a fucking nice guy

tio_bira@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 17:59 next collapse

Wasn’t his n*zi prank and all his racist shit who began the youtube downhill ?

I genuine asking, i’m not from u.s. and never watched a single video from him in all my life, i only knew him from have the youtube channel with most suscribers and the clip on PUBG bridge.

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml on 17 Mar 19:11 next collapse

Yeah. He had that moment, but that’s ages ago. Give it a break, dude.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 19:15 next collapse

You can say Nazi. Self censorship doesn’t help anyone other than advertisers

porcoesphino@mander.xyz on 17 Mar 19:37 collapse

How does self censorship help advertisers?

zalgotext@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 20:15 collapse

Self censorship makes a platform more attractive to an advertiser

porcoesphino@mander.xyz on 17 Mar 22:43 collapse

I don’t understand the mechanism. I could see a benefit for an advertiser if there was self censorship for criticising that advertiser, but what is the connection between that and self censorship for the word nazi? Or is it another mechanism?

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 18 Mar 01:13 next collapse

The general atmosphere is “better” meaning the advertiser sees his “content” amongst more friendly surroundings

porcoesphino@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 06:21 collapse

So there is less advertising in Australia and the UK than the US because they say the word cunt more?

DaGeek247@fedia.io on 18 Mar 07:03 collapse

The major content websites deprioritise Australian and UK content outside of their respective countries.

HereIAm@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 04:05 collapse

Advertisers don’t want to be viewed next to or adjacent to “problematic” content. Hence no swearing in the first 5 or so minutes in a YouTube video (right after add have played), self censoring words like cunt and suicide so algorithms don’t deprioritise you (again, because platforms make money from ads, so they won’t promote videos that aren’t as friendly).

It’s all in the service to appease advertisers, and they require platforms to roll out the red carpet wherever they tread.

tacosanonymous@mander.xyz on 17 Mar 19:15 next collapse

He’s not from the US either. But yeah, he’s an unapologetic lunatic. Nice for him to be on the right side of something with his large audience though.

flyby@lemmy.zip on 17 Mar 21:07 collapse

Not sure why is he lunatic, but he definitely apologised for and acknowledged what he’s done multiple times

Holytimes@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 20:47 next collapse

Why the fuck are you censoring Nazi. You can say fucking Nazi online. You can say fuck if you want to.

Why the FUCK are you bowing to the corpo overlords.

harmbugler@piefed.social on 17 Mar 22:50 collapse

The censoring increases engagement

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 18 Mar 06:25 collapse

Fuck this reality. >:(

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 18 Mar 01:15 next collapse

yea thats why he fled to JAPAN for like 5+years, and then he sorta of trying to come back through his vlogs, im guessing his family vlog channel wasnt enough so he pivoted to this in tech(looking for the next grift), he definitely misses that fame and money. yea he fled to japan avoid his consequences of being anti-semitic, if you fled to another country where the drama doesnt reach you, it means you dint learn your lesson.

its the same as the asian influencers i used to follow that fled to FACEBOOK to avoid controversy(mysogyny and MAGAT-Y) on reddit, where they can control the narrative better.

kugmo@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 23:48 collapse

why did you censor nazi

DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world on 17 Mar 18:37 next collapse

Self-hosting is a literal addiction. lol
I started with just an invidious instance and now I have my own audiobooks app that I’m also turning into a navidrome client. Did I say jellyfin and pihole, too?

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 17 Mar 23:07 next collapse

It really is 😅

I never thought that I’d want to spend my Saturdays fiddling with servers, but here I am

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Mar 23:07 next collapse

Pihole, then Jellyfin here.

I now have way too much IT stuff on my room :D

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 17 Mar 23:58 next collapse

Yeah I started my journey with an old laptop but I found the precariousness of it all too stressful, always in more fear I’m gonna lose my photo library so just stuck with the cloud in the end. Nice knowing it’s there for when I need it

DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:13 collapse

Fully understand that. I still pay google $10 a month for 2TB storage for that reason alone.

MaggiWuerze@feddit.org on 18 Mar 01:09 next collapse

If you have bought audiobooks on audible that you would like to add to your own server, I can recomment Libation or this great docker image of it that comes with vnc so you host it headlessly on your server hub.docker.com/r/ceramicwhite/libation

DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:12 collapse

Thank you. But Amazon will never taste a penny of my money. All of my books are downloaded from YouTube in the form of mp3 then converted to m4b.

melfie@lemy.lol on 18 Mar 04:44 next collapse

Ha, yeah, I started on a Raspberry Pi 4 and now have spent over $2k on my server through various upgrades over the years.

DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:10 collapse

Damn. That’s a lot of money. I actually didn’t spend anything on the hardware. I have a friend who gave me a dell optiplex he was about to throw away and a 2 bay Synology NAS with 8TB storage already on it when he upgraded. Been using them for 3 years now. The optiplex now runs Debian server, and the SynNAS is mounted to it as a mass storage for my stuff.

NannerBanner@literature.cafe on 18 Mar 06:23 collapse

I’m curious, is self-hosting invidious even worth it? Youtube can still see every video you pull through, right, and now it’s linked to a static ip address associated with you?

DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:07 next collapse

I do it for iPhone and iPad for my wife (and me occasionally when I use an iPad) to watch YouTube since the official app is riddled with ads and a browser isn’t a good experience for her. She’s been loving Yattee.

djdarren@piefed.social on 18 Mar 09:18 collapse

Hmm, I might look into that for getting YT on Apple TV without having to tolerate All Of The Adverts. Currently I manually download using yt-dlp and put them in a Jellyfin folder.

Epzillon@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 01:46 collapse

6€ a month for a VPS with self-hosted VPN :) I run all my self-hosted applications on my laptop but run it all through my VPS

SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social on 17 Mar 20:40 next collapse

Love Pewds :D

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Mar 23:06 next collapse

Didnt know pewds is breaching into the tech sphere (from gaming).
Do I need to sub him now? :p

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 17 Mar 23:08 next collapse

His redemption arch is in full swing.

He has a video on “I switched to Linux, and you should too” and a deGoogle video

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 17 Mar 23:56 collapse

Love what you did there. Arch btw

Obi@sopuli.xyz on 17 Mar 23:32 next collapse

Beyond his interest in FOSS and privacy, he’s also just mellowed out a ton, the dude is in his mid (late?) thirties and you can tell.

Havatra@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 01:30 next collapse

His Japan & family vlogs are also really chill - he has become much more chill and proper. If you remember him from when he got big on YouTube 10 - 15 years ago, he was a completely different person!

greybeard@feddit.online on 18 Mar 09:04 collapse

I don’t really remember why everyone hated him (Besides being annoying and once using a slur, for which he probably was lacking complete cultural understanding), but he was pretty young when he popped off. Not everyone changes as they age, but many people do. It’s very reasonable to say he is a different person now.

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 11:49 collapse

I feel it’s reasonable to recognize the wealth he has collected, and to conclude he is not my ally.

I don’t fucking care who it is, wealth hoarding causes immeasurable harm, not to mention requires a sociopathic mindset. So…yeah, I’m not even giving him a chance. I got better shit to waste my time on…

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Mar 15:26 collapse

I feel it’s reasonable to recognize the wealth he has collected, and to conclude he is not my ally.

Weird take. But hey: It’s a free world and you choose your own battles.

I don’t fucking care who it is, wealth hoarding causes immeasurable harm, not to mention requires a sociopathic mindset. So…yeah, I’m not even giving him a chance.

I- I guess?

I got better shit to waste my time on…

Now that’s a mindset I can get behind!

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 22:30 collapse

Eh, no two ways about it. Wealth hoarding is exactly the same choice as “push the button, get a million, but someone dies”. Same fucking thing. Literally

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Mar 00:19 collapse

Didnt know Pewds killed someone to get the money.
At worst he sold his soul for partnerships with brands (and sold out his morals)

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 19 Mar 04:27 collapse

Somebody, or more likely more than one, suffered in a way like Luigi did, not because of any targeted malice, but a lack of compassion. So his karma is fucked…

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 03:05 collapse

Dude is also wealthy as fuck. That helps a ton.

JasSmith@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 00:46 next collapse

I’ve never been into his content but I really enjoyed his journey to build a better local LLM. Way more technical than I thought he was capable of. I identified with his downward spiral into madness on his journey to do something completely useless but super interesting.

[deleted] on 18 Mar 01:09 next collapse

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rumba@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 06:35 next collapse

Mixed results.

He’s less annoying than he was covering gaming, he has some occasional hot takes, but I think overall he’s a positive influence.

quick_snail@feddit.nl on 18 Mar 08:20 next collapse

My printer said I should

SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev on 18 Mar 15:05 collapse

I never cared for any of his crap until last year when he deep dived into tech. The tech videos are good, he is a generally entertaining person. The dude has unlimited time and too much money, so he gets crazy deep in the weeds. It some ways I would say he is more competent that a lot of engineers. The self-hosted LLM videos are a good start.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today on 17 Mar 23:32 next collapse

He really went far from the Misogynist, racist piece of shit that made rape jokes, and who’s humor consisted of saying pussy every second line.

Padit@feddit.org on 17 Mar 23:58 next collapse

I dont really understand, is it possible to block JUST the shorts on Youtube? Any idea where i can find more about that?

I dont want to leave youtube just yet, but occasionally the shorts are melting my brain.

fluxx@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 00:02 next collapse

There is an extension for Firefox for blocking shorts. You lose the shorts button and any short you access through a link is converted into a regular, full size video.

InFerNo@lemmy.ml on 18 Mar 00:31 next collapse

On android you can hide/remove with revanced.

fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 01:30 collapse

Revanced not working so well lately…

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 01:43 next collapse

Check out Morphe which is a fork of revanced and better maintained github.com/morpheapp

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 03:38 next collapse

I’ll take a look next time revanced belly ups.

Tetsuo@jlai.lu on 18 Mar 07:30 next collapse

I’ll be honest morphe has been a total nightmare for me. It works 70% of the times. 30% of the times it rewinds mid video to a random timestamp. And will do that in a loop.

In my experience that has been the very worse app I used on Android for YT.

To be fair it’s not really their fault if YT is constantly trying to disrupt their app.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 12:32 collapse

Its working better than revanced for me.

fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world on 20 Mar 22:00 collapse

I tried it twice… First it stopped with a file not found exemption in a temp folder…

The next time the app crashed.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 03:37 next collapse

Mine started acting weird on wifi today, so I updated it. Getting a sponsorblock error 502, but working otherwise.

2.2.2 came out 12 hours ago, updating now to check it all again.

Here is the YouTube version I’m using.

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fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world on 20 Mar 21:52 collapse

2.2.2 is bugging out when compiling for me.

So I’m SoL.

Maybe I’ll try CLI… If I get bored or Firefox stops working(w/ublock.)

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 01:21 collapse

Give it a few days, I got a popup saying there was an issue, they’re working on it.

InFerNo@lemmy.ml on 18 Mar 03:42 collapse

idk what issues you have, I have it running on 5 devices

rumba@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 06:33 collapse

Youtube does a lot of A/B testing. Last time I ran it, I could use it on one device/account but not on another.

instead of fighting with it, I installed newpipe, pipepipe, grayjay and brave mobile. They all autoupdate. One of the 4 will always show youtube without ads. The first three don’t randomly show me anything I don’t ask for.

Gojo_Luffy@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 00:48 next collapse
SoloPhoenyx@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 01:23 next collapse

Seconding ReVanced. RVX works like a charm. Not ready to leave the Google ecosystem just yet. But, when I do, I’ll switch to primarily using NewPipe.

I’m also keeping track of Haven as they may be an up and coming YT alternative for artists and creatives. They’re currently in seed funding so it’ll be interesting to see if they can get off the ground.

InTheNameOfScheddi@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 01:44 next collapse

On Android you can remove shorts with Brave

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 01:54 next collapse

Vanced lets you remove the tab and remove the full portrait default, think it pulls shorts from results too.

A much better experience

SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 02:15 next collapse

“YouTube Enhanced” add-on lets you block shorts on Firefox and Chrome.

sakuraba@lemmy.ml on 18 Mar 11:36 collapse

the only correct answer for desktop

SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 17:52 collapse

That reminds me, if you want a TV experience on YouTube that can also block shorts; I recently discovered “VacuumeTube” for desktop OSes.

But yes, “Enhancer for YouTube” is the only correct answer for the desktop experience.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 03:35 next collapse

Smarttube will block shorts, works best on TVs and large screen devices.

YouTube revanced will as well, make sure you download the right one, lots of fakes out there.

old.reddit.com/…/simplest_way_to_get_the_official…

Not sure if you can filter out shorts within browsers with something like ublock origin filters, may need to look into it.

Shorts are literally brainrot. Fuck tiktok, fuck shorts.

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 04:21 collapse

vanced.to

Or the github site.

For android tv use smarttube

Raptorox@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 04:45 collapse

Didn’t vanced die? I’m pretty sure the continuation is revanced over at revanced.app

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 05:08 next collapse

The reddit post has the recent updates, revanced, since a lot of fake ones popped up. Be safe with apks.

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 06:46 collapse

You can get the revanced app from there or github. Vance. Did die. The revanced app has all the alternatives like morphed, rvx etc

imjustmsk@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 04:06 next collapse

I still use YouTube but never sign in, so basically I just search for what I wanna watch, Instead of subscribing I just have the channels I want in am RSS feed.

I might consider self hosting Invidious maybe. 

Alberat@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 06:24 collapse

cool. I’ve been thinking about this too. how do you do this? does yt host the rss feeds? or do you have to like scrape them?

imjustmsk@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 12:34 collapse

www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=CHANN…

Just get the channel ID and replace that

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 04:55 next collapse

Okay, since I haven’t seen anyone mention it yet, you can block shorts using ublock origin. You can block pretty much any component on any website.

ReluctantlyZen@ani.social on 18 Mar 09:02 next collapse

Just to make sure, uNlock or uBlock origin?

mikedd@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:08 collapse

uBlock Origin for sure

7101334@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 11:15 next collapse

You can also use it to disable JavaScript which lets you bypass maybe 60 - 70% of paywalled news articles

[deleted] on 19 Mar 00:05 collapse

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jimothysupreme@lemmy.org on 18 Mar 07:24 next collapse

Yes, Brave let’s you do that.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 07:57 collapse

While also supporting scams and homophobia

jimothysupreme@lemmy.org on 18 Mar 10:03 next collapse

So, I support abusing women because I like The Shining and Stanley Kubrick was a loud jerk and total dick to Shelley Duvall during production?

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Mar 10:15 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/29de2b0f-21c2-41e2-929e-eedb5c5c0815.webp">

out of context

jimothysupreme@lemmy.org on 18 Mar 10:36 collapse

Lol

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 11:11 next collapse

Well he’s dead, and IIRC didn’t donate to anti-women organizations. J.K. Rowling is a better comparison.

jimothysupreme@lemmy.org on 18 Mar 11:37 collapse

Ok.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 12:03 next collapse

If you want to pirate Brave Browser, I don’t think anyone will mind.

[deleted] on 18 Mar 15:54 next collapse

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deprecateddino@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 10:40 collapse

Do worry about this troll. I use Brave and don’t feel bad. You can find things you don’t like about everyone, if you go looking.

Lets_Disco@retrolemmy.com on 18 Mar 15:01 collapse

This is such an idiotic take. Yes i get it, Brave do try to offer some bullshit features out of the box, but there’s not many (if any) that don’t. You are not supporting scams or homophobia by using Brave.

You can very easily and quickly lock down Brave to remove all their nonsense. This is just the same like you do with other browsers so all good.

Yeah, company is shady, but browser is still grand for now if you do your own lockdown of features.

If you wish a browser rec, please go with Mullvad.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 16:28 collapse

I am indeed talking about your support of a scammer homophobic company, not their slightly modified Chromium browser.

lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 11:54 next collapse

I think it’s fairly new, but when you use search, there’s a list of filters at the top now like All, Videos, Unwatched, Watched, Recently Uploaded, etc. If you click video, it will only list videos with no shorts.

buddascrayon@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 11:59 next collapse

Turn off history on youtube. From that point on you will only get shorts from the people you’re actually subscribed to and nothing else.

Oh and even with history turned off when you start a regular video from one of your favored creators, the sidebar will continue to suggest videos from other people you are not subscribed to. So you will not be completely isolated. But it will tone down the brain rot considerably.

purplemonkeymad@programming.dev on 18 Mar 12:41 next collapse

If you are talking about the home page, I blocked the container for “featured content” using ublock, that kills short and news in the feed. If you get linked to a short, you can use a extension to redirect the URL to the normal watch player.

crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub on 18 Mar 14:47 next collapse

Did you watch the video?

Emotional_Series7814@piefed.zip on 18 Mar 14:51 next collapse

The Unhook browser extension for Youtube lets you choose what to block. You can choose to toggle the Shorts off without toggling anything else off.

Lets_Disco@retrolemmy.com on 18 Mar 14:55 next collapse

I know Brave is a big no no in these woods but they offer an option to select your own Content Filtering lists and one of those is Youtube Shorts.

Fantastic privacy feature.

Also they have Paywall Blocker, AI Suggsstion Blocker… Etc etc

Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml on 18 Mar 20:25 collapse

I just block it with uBlock element picker (do the same for the sidebar and comments)

hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone on 18 Mar 01:11 next collapse

Fuck this nazi bag of shit.

inzen@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 01:13 collapse

Why? What did he do?

Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Mar 01:30 collapse

He made a loose nazi joke like 10 years ago and the reaction was hilarious. He’s definitely not a nazi

AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Mar 01:54 next collapse

He can start by removing himself from YouTube.

DupaCycki@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 03:53 collapse

Or by mirroring his content to other video sharing platforms like LBRY/Odysee or Peertube. It requires little effort, seems to be risk free, and lays the foundation to migrate from YouTube at some point in the future.

I’m a little puzzled why a lot of creators don’t do this, especially ones who criticize YouTube so much and promote self hosting.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 04:30 next collapse

Odysee is a bit of a nazi platform and I think most people want to host their own peertube instance but putting your videos on someone else’s instance results in them going down when the instance does

Tho since Pewds is getting more and more interested in tech, I think hosting a Peertube instance would actually be fitting for him.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 07:41 collapse

I’m a little puzzled why a lot of creators don’t do this

my guess is that when you become “YouTube famous” you get perks and increased volume pay. this comes with a new contract that has binding resolutions, blocking you from uploading your content to other platforms.

sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 18 Mar 02:54 next collapse

can already tell this is gonna be the most insufferable comment section of all time

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/fe2dbabf-0865-4c86-8298-3ab347c19209.webp">

orochi02@feddit.org on 18 Mar 05:17 next collapse

You mean Here on fedi?

Linearity@infosec.pub on 18 Mar 08:17 collapse

Wtf is wrong with this place, why is everyone fighting
And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 08:23 next collapse

I’m old. I never understood the appeal of that cunt.

isthereanydeal@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Mar 08:39 collapse

Im old and I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.

kandoh@reddthat.com on 18 Mar 09:12 next collapse

Homie, they couldn’t waterboard me into posting that sentence publicly

7101334@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 11:15 next collapse

You sure about that?

Linearity@infosec.pub on 18 Mar 14:36 collapse

He said the nword once (terrible thing), almost a decade ago, apologized for it and improved (I guess) as a person
I’m sick of internet people calling for a guillotine whenever someone makes a mistake even once

trslim@pawb.social on 18 Mar 17:58 next collapse

yeah, its part of why the internet sucks, you make some bad decisions, fall for some stupid propaganda or listen to the wrong person, and you’re branded forever. People make bad decisions. It happens.

gods forbid someone make a mistake and then take a step back to reexamine their lives to try and be a better person.

7101334@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 19:07 collapse

The person I was responding to said

I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.

My point was not necessarily that he needs to be excommunicated from humanity, but that they might want to reconsider whether him “being the same guy all this years” is a good thing

(I do not actually give a single shit about Pewdiepie in any fashion positive or negative)

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 09:02 collapse

He literally defined low Q brain rot videos. there are good uses of YouTube, then there is this guy.

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 10:29 next collapse

lot of old farts on here that never grew up on youtube, just ignore the bitter old heads and people who think there too highspeed to have ever enjoyed his videos.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 16:29 collapse

Didn’t downvote. I’m old…like probably the oldest user here, and tho I have heard of Pewdiepie, I’ve never seen any of his videos nor do I know any of his lore.

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 17:08 collapse

are you bitter? if not then you dont apply.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 17:52 collapse

Never tasted myself.

SanicHegehog@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 23:04 collapse

Me either, I’m too old and inflexible to try that anymore.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 12:01 next collapse

And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.

After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider fell down.

lastweakness@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 16:51 next collapse

Damn, WSJ really succeeded in their campaign

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 18:50 next collapse

Yeah I’m certainly not going to claim to be an avid or long time watcher of pewdiepie but… No he didn’t? The fiverr thing happened, sure. But the rest of that is wild conjecture and misinformation.

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 21:54 collapse

no its just virtue signalers and keyboard warriors remembering hed did a bad thing that one time on the bridge and assumed hes a Nazi now.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 07:06 collapse

hed did a bad thing that one time

Far more than the one time. He had a whole routine about exploiting overseas labor to perform humiliating stunts.

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 08:48 collapse

Nah I’m not going to take a lecturing, each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained, it’s why a lot of people on this page aren’t taking you guys seriously, your type are to tightly wound up

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 09:19 collapse

each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained

You hear this from serial sexual harassers all the time. Every individual incident has plausible deniability. It’s the trend line that eventually catches up with you.

your type are to tightly wound up

My type being… big budget advertisers on YouTube?

Smaile@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 09:33 collapse

Now your implying I’m a rapist, go Fuck yourself, that I’m not going to put up with.

orgrinrt@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 23:01 next collapse

Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the impression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.

I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 04:44 next collapse

Is bigotry for clout not somehow worse than at least holding a bigoted conviction?

Katana314@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 09:58 collapse

Sorry, but something I’ve had to learn with time is that it really doesn’t matter who’s operating the gas chamber, if their actions rely on hundreds of other people openly saying “Death to all jews”. There’s no importance to whether those people would ever pull the lever themselves. The language is what’s important, not how much they were “only joking”. Both an ultra-racist and an edgy teen in their late 20s are just “trying to get away with it” and don’t care who they hurt.

manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml on 19 Mar 04:58 next collapse

The nazi who shot and killed 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch in 2017, shouted ‘subscribe to pewdiepie’ at the start of his live streamed rampage

you’ll have to excuse me if I never let that go

Logical@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 13:54 collapse

I don’t really see the things he did and said (he didn’t AFAIK actually make that fiverr order btw) as taking “a fascist turn”. Not excusing him using slurs on stream or his weird dogwhistles to fascists during that period, though, he certainly did and said things he should not have. But I think there’s a difference between farming edgy meme culture, in an insensitive way, for views, and actually espousing fascist views and trying to convert people to them. I might be missing something, and I’m under no illusion that the guy is some perfectly kind and humble person, but I think he’s more than made up for his prior mistakes as a public figure, with what he’s doing as a public figure now. It’s quite clear he’s no longer in the cancerous influencer rat race, and hasn’t been for some time.

MolochAlter@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 16:34 collapse

This is a site populated mostly by the too edgy or too contrarian for Reddit, with the same flaws in incentive systems as Reddit, why are you surprised lol.

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 04:42 collapse

I mean I’m just here because of the API thing

just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Mar 09:57 next collapse

Theres no place for nuance here, get outta here! /s

MolochAlter@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 16:30 collapse

Same, and I’d count that as contrarian behaviour.

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 17:14 collapse

No it’s not!

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 04:48 next collapse

You are advertising a youtube video

jnod4@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 06:05 next collapse

Let me rip the video to self host it boss

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/929718b1-1ad4-40a8-8f45-3e009636fd48.png">

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 12:20 collapse

I’m the farmer arguing we should improve society and not advertise youtube, you are the very intelligent guy calling me out. Pewdiepie is in the castle behind us.

tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Mar 09:20 collapse

What an amazingly observant comment… Whats your point smart guy?

brachiosaurus@mander.xyz on 18 Mar 12:09 collapse

You are on a decentralized and open source platform

tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Mar 18:36 collapse

Omg no fucking way dude :O

[deleted] on 18 Mar 05:23 next collapse

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melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 18 Mar 09:14 next collapse

Blocking Ads*

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 18 Mar 11:12 collapse

What?

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 18 Mar 12:20 collapse

Now it's correct. Just a typo I guess 😬

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 18 Mar 15:00 collapse

I fixed it, just gaslighting you.

Or maybe I’m not

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 09:19 next collapse

Could swear I saw that last year or the year before

HubertManne@piefed.social on 18 Mar 10:12 next collapse

pewdiepie is one of the modern celebraties that it kinda annoys me that I recognize the name. I feel like if I had not been a nerd and somehow I knew who captain kirk was even though I did not like sci fi. if I was not a nerd. I certainly like sci fi and know who captain kirk is.

angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com on 18 Mar 11:54 next collapse

I think most people in the native English speaking world recognize Kirk regardless of their opinion on sci-fi.

HubertManne@piefed.social on 18 Mar 15:32 next collapse

I mean now yeah but like in the 80’s and even 90’s not as much. wrath of con and 4 did relatively well and with blockbuster likely more people saw it. Despite that sci fi was really niche back then. How about like knowing who captain picard was in 1995.

W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Mar 04:39 collapse

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xzot746@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 11:58 collapse

Same I recognized his name but had never watched one of his videos, tried this one because of its content and could only get through about 2 minutes, maybe it got better but holy cow was that annoying. Not my style I guess.

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Lets_Disco@retrolemmy.com on 18 Mar 12:22 next collapse

I totally missed him being a Youtube jackoff and only watched my first Pewdiepie video last year when he was degoogling. Because I was doing that as well. Then saw his Linux video and that made me realise Linux was for me.

So while people might think he’s some sort of douche, to me he’s just fucking brilliant! So funny and smart, and really wants to help people escape from the awful internet we have now, where everything is sucking up your data. He gives great advice on how to do that and does it in such a funny way.

People keep mentioning his redemption arc lol, but i’ve just seen the great stuff so for me, abs love his stuff! Highly recommended!

Best thing for Linux, having such a huge Youtuber praising it so much!

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 15:12 collapse

Well he’s 36 now. Think he’s realized that it’d be cringe to behave like a teenager for much longer and his original fans are all adults now anyway, so he’s decided to aim his new videos at them rather than getting new teenage fans. Put it this way, he had 100 million subscribers 7 years ago, he has 110 million now. One has to assume his average subscriber age has risen a lot in recent years.

Honestly great that this is how it’s gone. I find him way more relatable now than when his fame was at peak.

Lets_Disco@retrolemmy.com on 18 Mar 15:27 collapse

I like that you like him now… But i don’t think the main reason he’s become cool now is due to him… not wanting to be cringe lol.

Obv yeah the audience n he grew but it sorta takes agency away from him by knowing its all bullshit haha. Like yes, he’s a huge YouTube star but he’s also now huge advocate of privacy, security and mental health.

He’s not just doing this cos he doesnt wanna be cringe.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 18 Mar 15:35 collapse

Honestly, cringe was an oversimplification in the first place on my behalf. My take is that he’s realized that he can either keep doing what he did for over a decade (put out cringe content, which would be even more cringe as he reaches 40 soon), or he can actually do something useful with the reach he has, and be someone his son can actually be proud of. And he went with the latter, over the easy money of the former.

Lets_Disco@retrolemmy.com on 18 Mar 15:40 collapse

Okay yeah, thats a more accurate picture.

I honestly think im glad i missed his cringe douche phase. I actually hate that whole influencer youtube bullshit.

But he really is not like those twats now lol

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cartridgedream@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 23:13 next collapse

The people hating on him clearly haven’t seen much of his content lately. He’s grown up and has his life together pretty well now. If you think nobody is deserving of a second chance then you do you, nobody is forcing you to watch his content. I honestly love his redemption arc and I’ve watched some of his content lately and really enjoyed it. And good for him that he likes self hosting and is doing all these pc DIY projects.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 19 Mar 00:01 collapse

he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences, he merely fled to japan to avoid and waited til all the drama died down, he mostly isnt on a redeeming arc, everyone just forgot about him.

Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social on 19 Mar 02:36 next collapse

People moved on long before he moved to Japan, or at least most people, there are still some that hate him for a mistake he made many years ago.

People can change and grow up and deserve second changes, I grew up racist just because of my environment, but as I got older I grew out of that and saw that it’s wrong and hurts and divides people.

Am I also unremarkable because of what I used to be like before my brain was fully formed?

nandeEbisu@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 05:09 next collapse

Over the years I think I care less about some public apology or statement to accept that a creator has moved past old behavior (I assume you’re talking about the bridge, I don’t really follow PewDiePie).

We see too many fake apologies and if it’s been some time, apologizing just gives an opportunity for viewers to dogpile when someone is trying to move past something.

I think if it’s been a few years and he’s clearly shown to have grown past it, that’s enough for me. You never really know what a content creator’s private beliefs are just how they choose to use their public persona.

NostraDavid@programming.dev on 19 Mar 05:37 next collapse

he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences,

  1. He publically apologized for it (no ukulele though, which is how you know it’s a fake apology)
  2. He didn’t do it again

What else would you want him to do?

And what consequences are you specifically talking about?

driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br on 19 Mar 09:40 collapse

Are the videos with Shapiro and the one recommending Paterson book online?

creation7758@lemmy.ml on 19 Mar 05:50 collapse

I’ve never seen piewdiepie before his Linux journey. What did he do and what consequences does he deserve?

DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca on 19 Mar 06:06 collapse

He did/said a bunch of racist shit in videos/streams.

In 2019 someone livestreamed themself committing a hate-crime/mass shooting, killing 51 Muslim people in New Zealand. The shooter began his livestream with “subscribe to Pewdiepie!”

That seemed to be a rude awakening for Pewdiepie, and I believe that he’s stopped with the racist shit.

driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br on 19 Mar 09:47 collapse

Someone also defaced a holocaust memorial, but that just tangential, he was an integral part of the alt-right pipeline radicalizing normies

glitchdx@lemmy.world on 19 Mar 09:26 next collapse

good?

I’ve never cared for this jackhole, but a douchbag doing good is a win in my book.

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org on 19 Mar 10:10 next collapse

How is there bi controversy section on Wikipedia?? I was so sure that he messed up bad. Could it be that he is genuinely okay?

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml on 20 Mar 01:04 next collapse

Pewdiepie: doing dogwhistle for nazi and fascist stuff

backlash

apologize

never doing it again

for 10 years

lemmy> he is a nazi scum, burn him!

down with the pitchforks. the man made a grave mistake a decade ago. but he has moved away from the wrong path. long time ago.

it’s time to give the man a break. not to forget. but to forgive.

Surp@lemmy.world on 20 Mar 03:14 collapse

If you don’t wanna watch the video it seems it’s all about this unhook.app

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