Has anyone tested yunohost? (yunohost.org)
from WhiteHotaru@feddit.org to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 02 May 03:31
https://feddit.org/post/11771136

I recently discovered yunohost, a French project for easy selfhosting. Does anyone have experience with that?

#selfhosted

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Marty_TF@lemmy.zip on 02 May 03:36 next collapse

not myself, but my stepdad tried it with 2 decades of IT and linux sysadmin experience.

basically, it is great if you want to host like 2 or 3 standalone services on a pi to get into understanding how the basics of selfhosting work, but for homelabs and deep customization, you’re better off with docker compose on debian/ubuntu server.

Jerry@feddit.online on 02 May 03:37 next collapse

Elena Rossini, well known for her help in growing the Fediverse, raves about Yunohost, https://news.elenarossini.com/my-year-of-fediverse-explorations/. You should be fine using it.

@_elena@mastodon.social

Samsy@lemmy.ml on 02 May 04:05 next collapse

Looks good. But I got burnt with CasaOS. Only App organizer I still use is dockge.

theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz on 02 May 04:43 next collapse

+1 for dockge. But that’s something for later. Yunohost is a great way to get a feeling for selfhosting.

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 02 May 05:57 collapse

what do you meant with burnt? i thought its even easier than yunohost?

Samsy@lemmy.ml on 02 May 06:48 collapse

Burnt my fingers. It’s not enough freedom for changing compose settings. But that’s just my two cents.

PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de on 02 May 09:49 collapse

thats true. when I tried it I even found it more difficult because of the limite. you must trust the scripts and if something does not work its a lot more complicated than setting it up by yourself.

Jerry@feddit.online on 02 May 04:28 next collapse

Coincidentally, there's this post today about Yunohost: https://my-place.social/display/db471d1f-c06c03be288f78d7-ad573aef

@_elena@mastodon.social

gkaklas@lemmy.zip on 02 May 04:48 next collapse

Yes, it’s pretty good! I’m a DevOps engineer, and have experience with Ansible, Docker, etc, but I just couldn’t find time to deploy services the best way that I wanted™ for my personal server

So, even though it e.g. doesn’t even use Docker, yunohost really helped me start using the many services I wanted/needed, which otherwise might take e.g. a few hours to a couple of days for each of them to research and configure

So I have one “production” yunohost server, one “testing” yunohost server to test services that I don’t know if I’ll use yet (and I wouldn’t want them to interfere with production e.g. by using too many resources)

and one server without yunohost for mailu, Docker, traefik, etc, which I can use to deploy services the correct way™ as I figure out the services that I really use and find the time to migrate them one-by-one

Even when using yunohost, there are so many things to do after deploying a service (e.g. DNS, configure the server and client software), so it has been really useful to save time when deploying and configuring.

I think it gets you ~80% there, makes self-hosting accessible to everyone, and helps democratize the Internet a bit 💚 It’s more important to have many people setting up e.g. Immich or Nextcloud for their family photos, than only a few Linux people being able to learn how to do it perfectly (Docker/kubernetes high availability, reverse proxies, etc) and have everyone else to need to resort to using centralized services

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org on 04 May 17:21 collapse

I think time efficiency and stability are the two traits I am looking for. Looks like yunohost can offer those.

Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de on 02 May 04:51 next collapse

I’ve used it when I started out and it’s good, I can recommend it if you just want something where you can hit install and it works. I just use docker containers now though because I have more experience and it allows to set everything up exactly how I want.

whysofurious@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 May 05:55 collapse

Same process here, started with yunojost and now using docker directly. Still Yunohost got me into self-hosting when I didn’t know anything about it, definitely recommended for starting out.

HelloRoot@lemy.lol on 02 May 04:57 next collapse

I run Dokploy which is like yunohost but a little bit more advanced.

rirus@feddit.org on 02 May 05:05 next collapse

Des, it has, what most others lack: Single Sign In and many Apps.

Ugurcan@lemmy.world on 02 May 06:43 next collapse

Used for years, then moved into docker containers.

It’s pretty rad, especially as a domain controller.

RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee on 02 May 07:15 next collapse

Elena Rossini (@_elena@mastodon.social) is a journalist who’s gotten into the fediverse and self hosting with Yuno Host. She’s documented it on her blog. It’s worked out really well for her.

phase@lemmy.8th.world on 02 May 09:20 collapse
mesamunefire@piefed.social on 02 May 07:38 next collapse

Use it everyday. I self host a number of fedi services. It's a great os.

Most of the apps are great, but there are a couple that are no longer maintained.

Allero@lemmy.today on 02 May 08:33 next collapse

Nice as a starting point, but not enough features to make it worth it for advanced setups.

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org on 04 May 17:37 collapse

What do you miss?

Allero@lemmy.today on 05 May 00:03 collapse

Ability to properly work with apps outside the officially recommended list, to customize Docker containers etc.

At least from what I can recall from 1-1,5 years ago that I used it.

koala@programming.dev on 02 May 08:56 next collapse

I did some testing with it, because I believe more people should be able to self-host.

I like how it is implemented. It has good support for email. Many apps support SSO.

The critical part to me is how up-to-date applications are. I started a small project to automate version tracking, check out:

alexpdp7.github.io/…/nextcloud.html

; so for example, the YunoHost Nextcloud app does not lag much behind upstream. My intention with this is to let people see that they have been updating Nextcloud dilligently for two years; they might pull the plug tomorrow, but it’s a good track record.

(I’d like to add scrapers to other projects similar to YunoHost. My ultimate goal would be to be able to choose a list of apps you’d like to self-host, and see which projects like YunoHost carry the applications you want, and compare how they track updates.)

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 09:06 next collapse

I had the same experience as many here. Great place to start out and if you don’t need or want more control then it’s perfect. I ended up on unraid and mostly use docker for apps.

Banthex@feddit.org on 03 May 07:42 collapse

For my vps i use yunohost and for selfhosting from Synology to unraid now. Yunohost is very time saving with subdomain and security Management.

0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 May 23:27 next collapse

yunotryityourself?

napkin2020@sh.itjust.works on 03 May 07:11 next collapse

Big part of me loving selfhosting stuff is that I get to learn things a lot. I think it’s pretty amazing that these sort of projects exist but I’ll always use good ol’ $BASIC_SERVER_OS.

toastmeister@lemmy.ca on 03 May 07:33 next collapse

Umbrel, Cosmos Cloud, Caprover, Yacht, Dokku, there’s a billion of these things.

cichy1173@szmer.info on 04 May 14:26 collapse

Not exactly. Yunohost offers solution to host services openly to the internet thanks to simplified configuration of domains (and it even offers free domains) and reverse proxy. Also it has built in email server (not client, but the server). Apps are packaged in its own format and with unique configuration, it is not just some wrapper for Docker Conpose

toastmeister@lemmy.ca on 04 May 14:46 collapse

Oh thats pretty neat. I know Cosmos Cloud had some interesting functionality similar to that, with Oauth support for everything. Though I’ve not tried it.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 03 May 11:08 next collapse

Been using it for 10+ years. Love it.

philpo@feddit.org on 03 May 15:57 next collapse

Yunohost is okayish. Some apps sadly are badly maintained and therefore upgraded with more delay than I considered acceptable (but that has improved afaik)and integration into a single “look and feel” is a bit lacking. Nevertheless it’s solid in the end.

If you are willing to pay something Cloudron may be an alternative for you as well - very well maintained product, good support team and rock solid from my experience - and it’s a non-US/non-China company. (German to be exact) But it costs money for more than 2 applications. I nevertheless went with them - I don’t self host as a hobby, I self-host because I want shit to work. Between job and family I have no time to fiddle around with things and keep everything updated on a short notice. I have project where I can do that, but they are not something my family or myself depend on. (And they integrate nicely with Cloudron as you can add “custom” Apps/use it as a proxy and OpenID Provider)

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org on 04 May 16:45 collapse

Nice! I live in Germany and your situation looks similar to mine. I started with Linux 20 years ago and bought a Synology about a year ago. I have my most essential services (backup, photos, Media server and paperless) running on that machine in my local network. I started with a small VPS and a blog after this, to see if I could handle managing a server. It went well.

We have a small cabin we share with others and I wanted to set up some basic services like a calendar. Went across a post about yunohost and gave it a try.

philpo@feddit.org on 04 May 16:53 collapse

Have a look at Cloudron as well,then. It’s free for 2 Apps and Johannes (the founder) is a fairly nice guy from Bavaria.

Anyway,yeah. I have a different post here what I self host (which doesn’t even include everything…) so it’s a slippery slope.

ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee on 03 May 16:35 next collapse

Never heard of it till now, now I’m going to try it out!

poloqualle@feddit.org on 03 May 16:51 next collapse

I really like it. Yes, you have way more control by using docker/nixos/etc of course, but for things like seafile or nextcloud, yunohost does the good ol’ 80% job with 20% of the effort and time, at least for me.

MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip on 03 May 18:15 next collapse

I was searching for something like this! Seems really promising, I’ll check it, thanks!

cichy1173@szmer.info on 04 May 14:36 next collapse

Yunohost has been recommended to me a couple of years ago and this is a software that brought me into #selfhosting.

Thanks to Yunohost’s application catalog, I got familiar with quite a few interesting applications, learnt about their capabilities, and I still use many of them today, such as Hedgedoc and Wallabag. In addition, Yunohost makes it easy to manage domains or reverse proxies. I currently work as SysOps/SysAdmin/DevOps and when I choose to deploy an application, I opt for something I have more control over, but without yunohost I would never have stepped into this career path. I continue to use yunohost on my main server, which is a bastion of stability for me, but I test new apps and host them on a separate server. In Yunohost, on the other hand, I install the Redirect application to conveniently have access to them outside my network.

Paddy66@lemmy.ml on 07 May 01:26 collapse

If I host a website on Yunohost can I push the files from Codeberg to it using git?

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org on 07 May 03:27 next collapse

I think this is not possible to configure just with yunohosting standard tools. My guess would be you would not need yunohost to do so. I have a blog made with a static site generator and I just push the whole output to a directory under /var/www. Plus there is an nginx running as Webserver and to redirect traffic to subdomains.

Paddy66@lemmy.ml on 07 May 04:22 collapse

I thought that I would need Yunohost to take care of all the web hosting stuff in the back ground…? Are you saying to just push files into the VPS barebones, or into Yunohosts website app shell? (Sorry I’m new to VPS stuff).

And how would you push the files from Codeberg? what is the method?

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org on 07 May 14:49 collapse

A minimal setup would be:

  • your VPS with an installed operating system like Debian 12 or Ubuntu 24(?).
  • a Webserver, which accepts http(s) requests from a browser.

You configure your VPS to be able to access it via ssh, login, install a Webserver like nginx, Apache or others, configure the server to point requests to your IP or domain to a local directory on your server (e.g. /var/www/yoursite on Linux), write some hello world html file, copy that file via scp to /var/www/yoursite, voilá – you just created a (very simple) website.

If you want a little more bling bling you could use a static site generator. See jamstack.org/generators/

With a SSG you would initialize your site on your local machine, write some markdown and put in in your site generators folder structure and run the command to create the html files from the markdown. The output is normally a specific folder you could then copy to your server, as mentioned above. Or you could set up git on your server and use git commit and git push to push changes to your server. This is what you had in mind.

I find it easier to just use a graphical client software like Cyberduck to drag and drop the whole static site generator output to my server.

cichy1173@szmer.info on 07 May 12:21 collapse

It can be done using Forgejo Actions. I did something like that with Github Actions. I host static website on my Yunohost server using app named my_webapp and I wrote Github Action Workflow that deploys it into my_webapp directory